• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    And this is why Dems will continue to lose the vote of the single issue voters who are voting red because of guns.

    Stop trying to ban them or create bullshit laws that do not effect the violence. All it does is lose votes and seats.

    Focus on the shit that will effect the violence as a whole. Single payer, help unions, spend way more on education, smaller class sizes, end the war on drugs, safety nets for people…a ton of things that will get votes and will actually drop the rate of violence in the USA…but nope go run around shouting about banning black plastic rifles cause “think of the children”…

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      8 days ago

      This is the problem. “Maybe we should have some kind of reasonable access restrictions” -> “Take away all the guns!”

      Just asking the question is interpreted as supporting draconian gun control. Or, worse, any gun control is seen as draconian.

      I’m fine with right to gun ownership for most people, but put some limits around mental health and violent history. There are people who own guns for lots of legitimate reasons from hunting to self defense to fun. It’s all good when those people are stable.

      And I agree many of the proposals do little to attempt actual solutions.

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        7 days ago

        Americans the big strong people who don’t feel safe unless they are packing a gun with them.

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        Just asking the question is interpreted as supporting draconian gun control. Or, worse, any gun control is seen as draconian.

        Dems get control of VA…first thing they do is an AWB which doesn’t do shit for gun violence. So yes the slope isn’t just slippery, it’s usually a cliff.

        I’m fine with right to gun ownership for most people, but put some limits around mental health and violent history. There are people who own guns for lots of legitimate reasons from hunting to self defense to fun. It’s all good when those people are stable.

        Who’s the ones saying that you’re mentally stable? Remember maga thinks anyone who is LGBTQ+ is mentally ill.

        People who have a violent history are already not allowed to own firearms.

        And I agree many of the proposals do little to attempt actual solutions.

        The solutions are things that don’t need more firearm legislation.

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      7 days ago

      Or try to do like Europe where most guns are banned and we don’t have school genocides every five minutes. Just saying.