• schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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      Maybe Hitler was right to genocide the jews? What the fuck is wrong with you?

      Most Jews moved all over the world and mostly never to Israel before the holocaust. They weren’t that Zionist until the holocaust. Israel, and it’s genocidal society, it some kind of CPTSD from what Hitler did. Hitler was absolutely wrong.

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        Israeli warmongering is unrelated to the Holocaust. Zionism is a whole separate ideology; and neither justifies the other.

        The mentality of genocide warranting genocide is exactly what the Nazis used to psuedo-justify their bigotry (against those they scapegoated for sabotaging them in WWI). That same mentality is used now to psuedo-justify Zionism because of the Holocaust. Zionists are like Nazis; but Zionists do not vindicate Nazis.

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          I doubt Hitler had any problems with Zionism if it meant Jews leaving Germany.

          Have I stumbled into an actual anti-semitic shithole here, the kind the ADL is always crying wolf about?

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            I absolutely did not mean to legitimize any genuine anti-Semitism. Idk about the source comment but I am arguing quite the opposite. Genocide is always wrong. The Holocaust was an atrocity. Israeli’s terrorism in Palestine is an atrocity.

            I am objecting to the idea that Israeli aggression can be written off a reaction or response to the Holocaust. Israeli aggression is done because Israel deems it strategic for political reasons; and because IDF soldiers (many of which source from the UK and USA) are eager to enlist for financial and racist reasons.

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              Getting distracted by the ethical dimensions of histoical blame is really a fucking weird move in a discussion that started with “Hitler was right.”

              There’s one person in this thread actively advocating for genocide, and it’s not either of us.

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            More often than not on left subs it’s an agent of them saying anti jewish things to then tar the group.

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              And the guy “well, actually”ing me and not the guy retroactively justifying Hitler’s holocaust?

              Maybe it’s a comfortiig to think all the anti-semites are mossad agents, but I don°t think it’s true. The instinct to racialize social problems is very human.

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                It’s a very real and very rudimentary tactic to say something inflammatory then use that as an excuse to tar a group. Were you born yesterday?

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                  So a guy says “Hitler was right to kill all the jews” and the one everyone is picking fights with is the guy saying “hmm” about it.

                  Interesting.

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        I didn’t say I agree with the latter, but that it’s less horrific to say in 2026 is quite the achievement by Netanyahu.