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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 day ago

Signal, DuckDuckGo, and NordVPN threaten to exit Canada if metadata surveillance law passes

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Signal, DuckDuckGo, and NordVPN threaten to exit Canada if metadata surveillance law passes

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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 day ago
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The latest version of Canada's Bill C-22 would require digital services such as internet service providers, messaging platforms, email providers, and potentially hardware companies to retain up...
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    Carney is basically pushing the 2015 conservative party program and everyone praises him. The “left” basically doesn’t exist anymore in Canada, you have the choice between the right and far-right. I’m so tired.

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      Just give it another few years, and half the people with the same political views as you will tell you you’re equivalent to the far right unless you vote for the right! 🤗

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    Fuck, they just won’t quit with this bullshit.

    Is there anything regular people can do to stop this?

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      The only thing you can do is protect the intelligensia who can help shape smart policy for a better future whilst also exiling* the billionaires and politicians (mostly the lifetime politicians who have no discernible skills other thank taking bribes and being corrupt pieces of shit).

      *exiting or something more dramatic.

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      Move, Canada is a shit hole

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        Very helpful, I’ll up-root everything tomorrow.

        Anywhere you recommend?

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          China. They will be the next super power and housing is cheap.

          • Premadekrill(She/Her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Maybe I’m missing the vibe here, but are you guys still talking about the subject of this post? If so, just a heads-up: all three apps mentioned in the title have been banned in China for well over a decade.

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            Oh yeah, and so little spying and the privacy of their citizens is respected, I know

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              You’re absolutely right, but if everyone goes authoritarian . . . they are likely to end up on top /s

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              Right. Like the license plate readers, and backdoor in every operating system, and phone tracking… Wait we are talking about the US right?

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                No, the topic was Canada and moving to China for less surveillance and more privacy, my confused friend. The west is regressing to where China already is and then plus some.

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                  If you mean Internet monitoring and social media policing… Wait are we talking about the UK?

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        I’m starting to think that no place is left that isn’t turning into a shit hole.

      • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zip
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        Um idk man they got better healthcare than us down in the ole hickville USA. 😂

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          Cheaper you mean

          • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
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            I mean I would rather get some healthcare than none because I can’t afford it so that makes it better.

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              Real

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        Vpn’s are banned there too.

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    Gonna need a VPN to connect to your VPN.

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      Kinda like TOR

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      What you’re looking for is a VPS provider.

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        Meant it as a joke, but this is still helpful information.

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    Does Canada care? 😲

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      Nobody in Canada wants this to pass, only the police lobby that is intrumentalized to promote this is interested.

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        I am going to give you one guess on who wrote the bill and is pushing the police lobby. All LE in Canada has an existing relationship with this company.

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        Is there organizing happening up there? I’ve been disappointed at the amount of my friends and neighbors here in the US who understand it, contacted their congressperson, and then hung up their hat like the job was done.

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          My plan is to move away from things that can be tracked as much as possible. Dropping Android when I can no longer get GraphineOS working, moving to a dumb phone and a data hotspot with a cyberdeck the size of a phone.

          The gov won’t listen on these issues because it is a law giving them more power. No amount of protesting is going to get them to stop spying because it is all supose to be secret anyway.

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          Yeah, but then we also need to rally about C-30, that re-authorizes all kind of known dangerous chemicals for the environment but also for our health, and rally against new pipelines, privatization of ports and airports, etc.

          Move fast and break (every)thing, so when people complain too loudly, it’s too late, there’s nothing left to salvage, and they’re already putting their hand on something else to divest attention from everything else they broke so far.

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            We could break things back. If we truly united, our combined power could almost stop the rotation of the earth. It could certainly grind the global financial system to a halt.

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          Theres petitions and such going around and people are vocal about it, but no rallying up for it yet.

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      Yep. I use all of these, and it would be utter bullshit to lose access over poorly thought out lawmaking.

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        I assume it’s like a lot of things happening in the US. Does America care? Americans care. The country…

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    I use two of those in the UK as well. Would prefer not to also lose them

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    Could this be the start?

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      nooo, this is like the 297,000th step since the start

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      Of?

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