Notice how one of the underlying messages of the cartoon is that it’s Zionist Karen that is the real antisemite: by deeming that those demonstrating against the killing of children are antisemite (literally: against Jews), she is implying that killing children is a Jewish thing to do.
This is very much the kind of racism displayed by those who equate anti-Israel with antisemitic: they’re implying that Israel and its actions are all core Jewsih chracteristics, de facto slandering all Jews including those who disagree with Israel and/or its actio s, so they’re the ones who by definition are antisemite.
Zionist != Jewish, sorry. Killing children is something I would expect neozionists to be apologists for, not postzionists.You have a flawed premise.
Can we knock it off with the karens already? I haven’t yet met a bad person named Karen. Brenda. Now I’ve met a few train wrecks named Brenda. Or just maybe we can knock it off with the underlying red herring sexism. We know already karen is a catch all term to get the hate pointed at women and off of the gun toting proudboys.
maybe we can knock it off with the underlying red herring sexism. We know already karen is a catch all term to get the hate pointed at women and off of the gun toting proudboys.
“Karen” started as a term for white women weaponizing their whiteness to behave unreasonable, aggressive and entitled towards BIPOCs, despite being marginalized themselves, through their gender.
White men has conveniently left out the whiteness that they themselves participate in, and focused in on the
whitewomen, essentializing the unreasonable, aggressive and entitled behaviour as linked towhitewomen’s gender, rather than their whitenessClassic co-opting. A social dominant group taking a term that’s been used by marginalized groups to critique the systemic oppression inherent in current power structures; and instead use it to uphold and reinforce the current power structures and their inherent oppressive systems.
“Karen” has long since transcended past race and gender. I don’t care what you look like, it’s the attitude and the way you treat people that makes one a Karen.
You don’t have to be a white woman to have main character syndrome and act entitled to everything, treating people like dirt if you don’t get your way and climbing up the customer service ladder until you do, trying to get the people on the lower rungs fired because they told you no.
Or call the cops on someone in a park because you thought they were too loud with their skateboard. Or drop to the ground and scream “a [color] person is attacking me!” when you don’t like them walking their dog down the trail. Etc.There is a lot of prediction you’re doing in things you don’t like in other people. I mean holy crap you’re reading between the lines, reading minds, and injecting a bunch of stuff that goes way over someone who calls the cops on someone in the park for existing while black. All so you can live in some form of victimhood cuz you’re scared of women. Leave the actual flagrant racism alone and challenge your thinking pattern. Do some cognitive work. Not every woman is out to get you. A lot of that is you likely not owning your shit, someone likely didn’t want to put up with your shit (while existing female around you) and you projecting that shit onto them.
Meanwhile regardless how men dress or do they hair they can form a group for putting people to literal death.
But yeah, do go on cuz you’re offended someone for colouring their hair purple and ordered a pumpkin spice latte with almond milk not a cappuccino and gasp tried to tell you this and you decided they are trying to ‘get you fired’ just for that. That’s digging into the real important shit of the world, snowflake.
I think it should have been Shaniqua. That’s a real Karen name
Could you clarify why “gun toting proudboys” isn’t sexist?
You should go ask a proudboy these questions you have for them.
The question isn’t aimed at proudboys but at you, calling use of the Karen name “underlying red herring sexism” but then demonstrating your own not so underlying but explicit red herring sexism with the use of “gun toting proudboys.” Unless you were being ironic of course.
Is this your first introduction with the term ‘proudboy’? Did you just sleep through 2020 election and too embarrassed to admit it or were you literally born yesterday? Or is this just a troll shitPost attempt? I’m going to go with the last one and block your ass. So you’re going to have to find someone else’s time to waste with bad faith posting though I’d prefer it if you didn’t but whatever. you are clearly hellbent on being the shittiest version of you.
The ultimate “lalala I’m not listening”. What a fucking crybaby.
I have. My ex’s mother was named Karen, and she was 100% Karen. Bigoted to the core. But I hear ya.
Sums it up. Fuck the fascist, genocidal Israeli leadership, and fuck the population of Israel as well because overall they support what is going on.
And fuck US governments and institutions that invest in and fund Israel. Divest! Now!
I don’t hate Jewish people, but I am certain with all this bullshit Israel is pulling, the population of people that do is growing.
I don’t hate Jewish people, but I am certain with all this bullshit
theyIsrael are pulling (whilst claiming it’s on behalf of Jewish people), the population of people that do is growing.FTFY
I agree with your edit, the change has been made.
Biden should be sending weapons to Hamas.
USA only does that to when they’re fighting for capital or against dirty commies
Lol commies? What year is it? The US does this when fighting terrorists. That’s been the big buzzword since 9/11.
Only because they needed a new name for those previously funded/given weapons
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But you can’t deny that it’s a hot one
This was originally meant as sarcasm. But the votes and replies are certainly interesting.
Biden supplied weapons to ISIS well enough to fight Syria, and now he is supplying weapons to ukrainian terrorists well enough to fight Russia and the European economy.
Biden supplied weapons to ISIS well enough to fight Syria, and now he is supplying weapons to ukrainian terrorists well enough to fight Russia and the European economy.
Terrorists? People defending their land from Russian invaders?
don’t feed the trolls…
🤦♀️you right
less USAID propaganda, cub)
man this post has all the flavors of the israel palestine conflict.
Nothing quite like lemmy for that, would be surprised if the troll factory mobilized on reddit’s worldnews was beginning to catch on to the troll factories on the other side of the coin mobilized on lemmy. In fact, this being in lemmy.ml, I would normally expect only to hear about pro-Hamas opinions. Guess we’ll have to wait to see which comments get removed to see if things have changed or if it was simply just an day off.
This is of course an exaggeration and propaganda in itself. In real life, the sign (or others around it) would also have real anti-semitic aspects, if not outright calls for genocide against jews or israelis.
In turn, many people still seem to blindly support israel, and make stupid claims like there are no innocents in gaza, engage in propaganda (eg. here’s a photo of a kebab stand in gaza, see, no food shortage!). Sigh.
There is an incredible amount of hate and racism that is spewed forth by a small minority of people, and that it is so readily accepted (and not called out) by many is worrying. We have cause for concern.
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7 hours later and I can still see it so I think you might be full of shit.
I see a little blue trashcan next to their comment… but I can still see the comment. I do not know what to make of that.
A glitch in the Fediverse I guess. Here’s my view.
I think so, there was a spammer a few weeks ago and after mods removed the spam it still showed up for a few days. Here’s what it looks like in sync:
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‘from the river to the sea’, which of course is antisemitism
I think you mean anticolonialism.
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What do you call it when you forcefully remove hundreds of thousands of natives without letting them return and then replace them with people from all over the world?
And this is still happening in the west bank.
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Only a racist would claim that a slogan which is at most anti-Israel is antisemitism because only a racist would would accept the “logic” chain of though required to equate Israel with Judaism: “all jews are the same hence they all support Israel hence Israel and Judaism are the same”.
It’s even worse considering that some Jews are against the actions of Israel and even against Israel itself, so this person is saying that those Jews are antisemites (quite literally: against Jews), so a Non-Jew deeming some Jews as “Bad Jews”, a good old practice of, amongst others, the Nazis.
One of the underlying messages of this cartoon is exactly that it’s the Zionist Karen that’s the real antisemite because claiming that somebody demonstrating against Genocide is against Jews, she’s implying that Genociding is a Jewish thing to do.
Thanks for the nuanced comment. Of course the signs don’t only say ‘stop killing of children in Gaza’, but often ‘from the river to the sea’, which of course is antisemitism.
Of course antisemitism ? That is what the repeated front-page news of mainstream media tried to make me believe a while ago, and then lots of politicians started to believe that as well, even banning that sentence in some countries. Here’s some information on it :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea
Many Palestinian activists have called it “a call for peace and equality” after decades of Israeli military rule over Palestinians while for Jews it is seen as a call for the “destruction” of Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel Read it and then say again “from the river to the sea is antisemitic”.
Chiefly, it also has the added benefit of being a phrase that you can rhyme with the word “free”
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The full chant is “from the river to the sea [Palestine will be free]” which to me means that the state of Israel is unwelcome. Hell I’ve joined in on that chant, even though I’m not theoretically 100 against a permanent Israeli settlement, so long as it takes on a very very different form.
Gosh, that’s a nice strawman you’ve created.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with protesters refusing to let Jewish students onto their own campus without passing a political purity test, threatening and vandalizing Jewish institutions, desecrating Jewish ritual objects, or appropriating violent language like “intifada.”
Why doesn’t the movement cast out the people who advocate targeting Jews? Why does it celebrate those who advocate violence?
I dunno, did you ask this to the nazi siding with Israel?
Yes. That’s why there are not chants calling for violence during the pro-Israel demonstrations on campuses.
Edit: Just think about the number of downvotes. All these people believe it’s not true, but no one is posting a video to contradict it. Of all the people who have seen this, no one can show a single example.
Lol desilusion
Ummm, Israel is committed to indiscriminate violence, the world more than ever before watches in horror. If pro-Israel demonstrations are in full support of this violence, the mass killing of women and children, children dying of famine, the leveling of schools, universities, hospitals. Then that makes their protest pro-violence if they embrace all this death and destruction.
