MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]

Yeah I’m sure that China is investing billions and betting their future air force and navy strategy on “joke technology”. The Chinese engineers working on the J-35, J-36 and J-50 just got brainwashed by NATO propaganda. China should just build a bunch of Flankers instead, so they can end up like the Russian Air Force that can’t penetrate Ukrainian controlled airspace 3 years into a war and just lob glide bombs ad infinitum, while Israel can penetrate deeply into Iran on their third attack. Whatever.

As for jamming, that’s exactly where stealth/low observability being a force multipler comes in. If your radar cross section is much lower, you need a lot less energy to jam and effectively mask your radar signature, and the jamming is effective over exponentially longer distances. Yes the effects of stealth technology are exaggerated by propaganda and movies, and of course it’s possible to shoot down stealth aircraft, but it’s still effective.

Taking some shots at the hot exhaust of an F-35, while a commendable achievement for a group such as Ansarallah, is not the same as shooting one down. At the end of the day, they shot down zero planes.

“Stealth” is a valuable technological concept that was first discovered by the Soviets in the 1960s, that an object’s radar return is related to its shape and not only it’s size, and thus can be minimised by changing it’s shape.

Clearly it works, we’ve had many cases of stealth aircraft taking their adversaries by complete surprise, from the Gulf war to Yugoslavia to now. There are videos online now where you can hear Israeli aircraft in the background over Iranian skies.

Is it a Hollywood tier invisibility cloak? No, and it’s possible to shoot down stealth aircraft. But it’s a force multipler, which is why China is working very hard on their 6th generation stealth aircraft and their own analogue to the F-35, called the J-35.

This was from April and October last year, not the current attack.

The response by israel to True Promise Two was rather pathetic which is why True Promise Three never happened.

I disagree. While the Israeli response wasn’t as visually impactful as Operation True Promise II, it paved the way for the current Israeli attack that’s taking place, taking out the advanced radars for air defence systems. HAWK, S-300, etc.

Their most advanced air defence radars were already destroyed in previous Israeli attacks

S-300 radar vehicle hit during April

HAWK or S-300 air defence site in Tehran on fire during October:

Kahrizak air defense base on fire/explosion in Tehran during October, likely S-300 site

The Israelis were talking about doing this for over 6 months

Stealth works, plus Israel already took out Iran’s most advanced radars, their S-300 fire control radars, in previous attacks. After the initial attack waves, even non stealth aircraft likely entered Iranian airspace. Plus Israel has advanced stand off weapons like air launched ballistic and cruise missiles that can be fired from hundreds or even over a thousand kilometres away from the target.

No they’re not getting shot down directly, because Ansarallah/the Houthis have never claimed a shoot down during their public statements (while they are very quick to claim the shootdown of MQ-9 Reaper drones for instance), Yemen don’t have the systems to shoot down aircraft hundreds of kilometres out at sea where the losses take place, and there’s been no evidence presented of manned US aircraft going down over Yemeni soil, no wreckage, no ejections over Yemen, no search and rescue missions for the pilots, no pilots captured by the Yemeni Armed Forces.

However, the F-18 losses are still a result of Ansarallah/Houthi attacks on the aircraft carrier. So still as a result of Ansarallah/Houthi attacks, even though they’re not being shot down directly. As for the three F-18s lost by the USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier during it’s 7½ month deployment, here’s a breakdown:

• First during a friendly fire incident: F-18 in mid air refueling configuration (F-18s can refuel other F-18s) went out to hunt a drone, upon returning to its regular flight path, an air defence operator on the USS Gettysburg lit it up with an SM-2 thinking it was the drone.

• Second fell out of the hangar bay with tow truck attached during evasive maneuvers, during an Anti Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM) attack.

• Third had an arrestor hook malfunction, while trying to land during an ASBM attack.

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Why do you think the US wants Greenland, and has already signed deals with mining conglomerates there for rare earths for the US Department of Defence, preventing a Chinese buyout of these mines in the process?

Highly unlikely, there’s nothing in the Yemeni arsenal (or most countries arsenals) with the range to target a US Navy AEW/AWACS asset (in the E-2 Hawkeye) in the rear lines like that. These aircraft operate hundreds of kilometres away from the frontlines. This would have to be a world record breaking Surface to Air Missile kill, or thereabouts, to even be possible. For context, the current world record in combat is 217km with an S-300V4 system. Maybe Ansarallah could have tried to rig up a surface to surface anti radiation missile with the required range (like the Hormuz missile with 300km range) to try hit an aerial target and try home in on the emissions of the big radome on the E-2, but I doubt it would result in a hit. Given that US airstrikes were ongoing hours after this reported attack, I can’t see this being realistic.

Also federation is back? Cool.