Younger me was really depressed, like clinically and so caught up in himself that I think he’d hear me, but not actually listen to what I’d have to say. And I don’t totally blame him, he was very confused and hadn’t really figured himself out yet.
I think he’d be surprised but also unhappy with the direction of my life… But he’d be unhappy no matter what since he still hadn’t figured out how to beat his depression and make his own happiness.
Plus he’s not only stubborn but also secretly a bit arrogant and needs to fall on his face a lot to learn lessons. His failures will be his greatest teachers. The fact that he even can fail will be very hard to accept but very needed as well.
So overall, I don’t expect his reaction would be great. But I also can’t see myself wanting to give him any advice nor do I really care what he would think… Actually I would tell him to lift with his knees and not his back more, properly show him how to do it too.
I agree with the other guy. I have a trans friend but she doesn’t pretend like it’s natural for humans. Maybe the feelings are but the actual process is not. And that’s fine. But trying to argue against a point that the oppositition uses with niche examples and rephrasing to something that is very cut and dry does not help with optics or changing hearts and minds. If anything it usually backfires.
The more important issue is that people accept her choice and get the fuck over what she has decided to do with her own time and body that does not effect anyone else in any way.
Like the first guy said. Who cares if it is natural or not? That’s not the fucking point, there’s lots of things for us in this world that aren’t natural that we love and that help us. There’s also lots of things in this world that we hate or that will harm us that is natural.
Natural doesn’t mean good or bad it’s an incredibly reductive stance to take. And it’s frankly insulting that you have decided to roll over and let the oppositition influence your opinion that trans people have to be seen as natural just because hateful people say the opposite. Should the people claiming unnatural is somehow bad and dangerous also hate people with prosthetic limbs because those are also not natural? Following that logic, should we then argue that prosthetics limbs are natural because others hate them for not being natural? See how the logic for the entire argument from the start is stupid, breaks down, and should not have even been entertained in the first place? It’s a bad faith argument, you don’t engage with those.
You’re a horrible person for saying this. The guy above you is supportive of trans people and yet because they don’t fit into your box of what an ally looks like exactly that means they can’t be one. That is incredibly insulting not only to them, but to the movement, and even to my friend directly. I’ve watched her be discriminated against and the hurt that goes with it, you’re supporting that hurt by rejecting a real ally.
In these times you support every ally you have even if they don’t fit into your box of what an ally is, you don’t get to decide that. As long as they don’t discriminate against trans people there is nothing wrong with their support. Your rhetoric is the exact issue that causes people to turn away from being trans allies or giving support because they feel alienated and constantly berated when trying to support the cause, usually because they’re told they’re not supporting in the right way. Shame on you especially for trying to cover your words with that fake positivity at the end, the planet has good people but you’re actively telling them they’re not good enough!