XiaCobolt [she/her]

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Yeah they were meant to have full air support. Kennedy was meant to be pressured into doing it but he wasn’t.

Then a full scale invasion was on the cards, which prompted the need for whole missile crisis.

I’m not disagreeing. I’m just saying on their best day it’s a totally pyrrhic victory.

Sure. I don’t necessarily disagree. Consider my comment the best possible case for the USA.

Cuba’s proximity to the USA gives them advantages they don’t have for other conflicts. We don’t know push comes to shove if Russia backs them and international condemnation has done nothing in recent years.

Whatever happens they’re still fucked.

And obviously Cuba has been planning for invasion for more than half a century. They definitely have plans, caches, sleeper agents, stay behinds etc.

Invading Cuba would destroy the American Empire right now. That’s why they quarantine it via the blockade. They’d Even if they defeat the army in days, capture Havana, and imprison the president.

Then what? It’s Iraq and Afghanistan on their doorstep. Except a huge chunk of the population actually liked the old government. And even those who don’t might be swayed when they lose their jobs, healthcare etc and they’re abused by Americans and their families murdered.

A large urban centre for unrest. Mountains for resistance to hide in. Then the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Haiti, Puerto Rico etc nearby for rebels to foment unrest. The Virgin Islands, Miamia and Mexico to carry out assassinations and terrorist attacks against Americans.

The US drone striking any boat in the Caribbean they think is rebels. Killing “innocents” and tourists.

I think it’s hard to predict as these all have effects on each other. Like the USA could have continued social democratic reforms to appease it’s strong labor whole snatching up European colonies in Asia and South America to subsidize the core.

And an anglo alliance might consider Europe lost and pivot to cementing their grip in South Asia and Southern Africa etc

The weird outcome is I think Imperial Japan would probably have at a minium a non aggression pact with Europe and possibly an alliance. Which is an enormous contradiction of Idealogy versus realpolitik. Possibly leading to an Anglo or US aligned Nationalist China movement etc

I think there would have been a WW2 it just would have been communist continental Europe versus the UK/Commonwealth-USA alliance maybe with Imperial Japan as a wild card.

Still probably a better timeline but uncertain.