I thought trump didn’t like taxes?

And does it grant you immunity from accidentally being deported? Or intentionally for that matter ?

I feel like using percentages would be more meaningful. The Dow Jones peaked at 381 just before crashing in 1929. So using absolute numbers can’t be compared because the entire DJ wasn’t worth the drops we are seeing today.

I in 1929 it lost~10-12% on its worst days

So far Trump is losing ~5% approx each day

It’s not exactly a stellar endorsement. I’m only saying that you are comparing things at today’s dollar value, when the value of currency changes over time.

This Wikipedia page shows that the worst days by percentage are not where we are yet.

However… Rank, President (AFFILIATION), date, DJ, Point loss, %loss

1 Reagan ®, 1987-10-19, 1738.74, −508.00, −22.61%

2 Trump ®, 2020-03-16, 20188.52, −2997.10, −12.93%

3 Hoover ®, 1929-10-28, 260.64, −38.33, −12.82%

4 Hoover ®, 1929-10-29, 230.07, −30.57, −11.73%

5 Trump ®, 2020-03-12, 21200.62, −2352.60, −9.99%

6 Hoover ®, 1929-11-06, 232.13, −25.55, −9.92%

7 McKinley ®, 1899-12-18, 58.27, −5.57, −8.72%

8 Hoover ®, 1932-08-12, 63.11, −5.79, −8.40%

9 T. Roosevelt ®, 1907-03-14, 76.23, −6.89, −8.29%

10 Reagan ®, 1987-10-26, 1793.93, −156.83 , −8.04 %

All republicans. I note that the biggest daily gains were also republicans but most of them are related to the big drops e.g a day, week or month later, so they basically tank the index then the index recovers some time later.

Firstly, does he really think it’s going so great over there that wealthy people think it’s worth $5M to get in? More likely they will just wait for the fire sale and buy up the land cheap.

Second if you have 5 mil, do you need to go there for work?

All you need to do to not need the chlorine wash is to not treat the animals so badly that they shit all over each other due to lack of space. Improve their welfare improve the product, but no. Dollars come first.

You know how sometimes your get so frustrated at someone you struggle to eloquently articulate your dislike of them because there are so many facets to that dislike. This is how Elon makes me feel these days. I struggle to put it in the simplest terms.

It really bothers me that he thinks he deserves pity while denying it to others. It bothers me that his attitude towards money comes from never having had to worry about it. It bothers me that he thinks that he can take actions that threaten people’s livelihoods and even their lives and expects to be loved for it. It bothers me that the only way he can rationalise why people hate him is that they have brainwashed or paid by the left rather than having legitimate grievances with him. It bothers me that he thinks if you aren’t a billionaire it’s because your are lazy/don’t deserve to be and that their hard work is not equal to his. Lastly it bothers me that I don’t know if he genuinely holds these positions or if he just uses them as justification to do horrible things.

I’m not trying to be a nay-sayer, but what does this actually achieve?

He’s not disrupting a vote. He’s only talking. While I’m all for the Democrats doing something this doesn’t actually achieve much. Chick Schumer had a chance to actually disrupt this administration but he didn’t.

So I am genuinely asking, if the Democrats are not preventing the Trump administration from pushing bills through e.g if this were a fillibuster, how does this help?

In MAGAland everyone except George Soros agrees with trump and musk and the only possible reason that people don’t, is bribery

I mean, she has a hugely important job. Leaking details of an attack plan is as bad as it gets but if she can’t remember details like this a mere two weeks later, she isn’t for for the job either.

How can she make operational decisions if her memory only goes back less than two weeks???

In the normal world everyone on that chat would be fired but we are in Trump world now so everyone just shrugs.

Nixon would never have stepped down if watergate happened in today’s world.

I meant any incoming administration in 4 years would have to win big in all 3 houses to demonstrate to the world that this 4 years was unwelcome and unexpected. Incidentally that’s also what would be needed to effect the change BUT. A sizable proportion of the US electorate has shown an appetite for what is happening and historically the republicans always seem to do better than they should despite all the horrible shit they do. So I don’t have faith that the next election would go as we hope.

In 2024, despite, or maybe because of his first term, Trump won the popular vote, and project 2025 was also not a secret.

So the question would be, what reform or reforms would convince the rest of the world the USA wouldn’t pull the same moves again?

Donor caps? Media regulation?

The problem is not just getting trump out in 2028, it’s keeping his followers out in 2032, 2036, 2040 etc.

With respect, it will take the US a lot longer than 4 years to rebuild the trust that has been destroyed. Even a return to the norms of the last 75 years, while it would be welcomed by the traditional allies, would mean nothing if it can be reversed so easily again in 8 years and sharing secrets and cooperation with an “ally” like that is dangerous.

Foreign policy changed radically in a matter of weeks. The US is no longer predictable or reliable.

Is this the beginning of a 2028 campaign?

He’s not holding any cards right now. Trump made him a tough guy. He’s gambling with World War 3.

Wait, sounds… Nah forget it.

That’s ok, he can use full self driving at full speed on the highway…

Well done America, made yourself great again! Number one in measles!!!

In all seriousness, I hope only adults who have chosen not to be vaccinated suffer. Children don’t deserve to die for the stupidity of their parents nor do those who rely on herd immunity. It just boggles my mind that anyone can be convinced that the risk of catching deadly diseases is the preferred choice over vaccination.

Actually I think they want to believe that they are the underdog .

Fool. “main-stream” is a synonym for “dissenting”.

I too am in disbelief. I guess it will take a little time for the effects of federal layoffs to be truly felt, but the price of food and goods will hit very soon. Maybe when people realise that their own finances just got a whole lot worse and they are choosing between heating and eating they might hate it more than they hate libruls.

Thought trump was strong on the economy?

Let’s say Russia invaded and occupied Alaska. The US tried to get them out but couldn’t. After valiant fighting for years they turn to the international community for help. The EU accuse America of starting the war and start directly negotiating with Russia without the US at the table. The rest of the world says you need to sign this deal to give us your resources but we won’t guarantee your security in return but as part of the deal to end the war swiftly you need to let Russia have Alaska. The US says that is unacceptable and the rest of the world says that they are being disrespectful and don’t really want peace.