Oof, thats gotta hurt for the UK, now that they’re part of Antarctica.
So, not Europe, but specifically The European Union.
So European Union countries specifically?
The little text on the image mentions “the survey was only held in EU countries”, the big text on the image doesn’t care.
Probably the EU fash government seeing how far they’ve come in their promoting of the artificial Euronation
Funny how nationalists, can’t possibly imagine that there could be something other than national entities and communities, as if the Westphalian paradigm would be really so total as it pretends to be.
There is no “Euronation”, there doesn’t need to be to have a common European Union, with a common civil society, legal and judicial institutions and common law, to do the things the member states can’t do on their own. Of course Russia and the US hate that because they’d rather prefer those things being decided in DC or Moscow instead, without the influence from anyone from all these European countries.
LOL
Of course ther can be something other, we have that monstrosity right now.There are no bigger bootlickers to DC that these sell out EU traitors.
They bend over and let the US terrorists blow up our ges supply so they can benefit, sanction ourselves and thank them for the tariffs.
And support these scumbag nazis in their unprovoked attack on Iran.
And we suckers now also have to buy more US war crap.It’s the Eurorats who have destroyed European independence.
We are nothing but their pawns to be used as proxies against Russia.You keep imagining this EU farce makes us somehow strong while we’re rapidly being destroyed and bankrupted.
It is probably a waste to ask you, how it is that the US is driving the same anti-EU propaganda that Russia is and supporting even the identical parties for that. It makes zero sense if the EU is “the biggest bootlicker to DC”.
Member states have shifted substantial arms procurement away from the US, contrary to your claim too.
Given the delusional stuff you are saying about gas and your opposition to the sanctions against the Russian regime, at least it gets clear where you are coming from. If you prefer being ruled by DC or Moscow, after destroying Brussels.
It’s clearly you who is delusional if you don’t see these EU traitors are nothing but sell-outs destroying Europe for the US regime.
Maybe you were sleeping when the US terrorists blew up Nordstream and denied us cheap gas from Russia.
What did our EU ‘leaders’ do? Nothing.
On the contrary, they decide to buy 8x more expensive fracking gas from them.
And you can keep sticking your head in the sand and not see how that is destroying our competitivity and many companies close, fire workers and/or move.
And then the US regime start bombing Iranian schoolgirls unprovoked causing even more crisis for us.
And what is the reaction from our bootlickers? Sactions on the aggressor? No, they sanction Iran for defending themselves.
What did that embarrassing lapdog VDL say about this clear violation of international law? “Europe must accept the world as it is”.
And worse, many EU countries even send ships in support.
Same as they keep supporting the genocide state despite their cheap empty words.
I bet you buy them too.Member states have shifted substantial arms procurement away from the US, contrary to your claim too.
You offer zero sources for your faulty claims.
Again simply suckered by lying politician’s words and ‘intentions’.So not so long ago, while we’re already being bankrupted and these EU bastards were already stealing our pensions and social welfare money to throw in the bottomless corrupt pit that is Ukraine, the orange clown said we should pay even more for their wars. We already more than tripled imports. Europe now accounts for 33% of global arms imports.
Paying even more while we’re already in shit was a bit too much to sell to the EU population.
Guess what happened then?
Trump does his little act as if EU is no longer friendly, some meaningless threats pulling out of NATO, posturing and talk about Greenland and suddenly the EU lapdogs now have an excuse to say we need to be ‘independent’ and buy more weapons.
Hey look, exactly what Trump wanted in the first place.
58% of all major weapons imported into Europe we buy from that warmongering country. 217% increase from 2024 to 2025.
That’s really “moving away from the US” right?
Thank god the media is pushing the important achievements of independence like making our own Office software. That will show em!Facts are the US regime is out of stock with all their illegal wars and now has effectively outsourced a big part of the anti-Russia effort and bill to us so they can concentrate on bombing brown kids in the middle-east or further antagonize China.
There are long term agreements and contracts making sure we still buy more US crap.
And guess what will happen in 2 years when Trump is gone?
Just like that we will be best friends again, and the temporary EU independent show can end. Of course we will have spent all those billions by then and we can use these arms to support their endless imperialist wars like we always have done.
Like good vassals.But you can’t even look ahead that far and have no grasp of geopolitics.
Keep buying the independent strong EU nonsense talk, and don’t look at the devastating consequences for the population while living in your fantasy world. We’re definitely not ruled by DC!Wow, you are really into the full Russian narrative. Never mind that this mythical cheap resources from a regime that is openly waging a hybrid war against the rest of Europe, did not help Hungary at all in getting energy prices down, let alone keep inflation in check. Its way worse than in Poland which has done everything it could to get away from that “cheap energy”. Those not falling for Russian propaganda are doubling down on the transition to renewable energies and the necessary infrastructure modifications needed to support it. The shift in the last 5 years has been very substantial and is already paying off during the price shock caused by the US regimes war against the Iranian regime.
But yeah both, the US and Russian regime support the identical parties in the EU, which are reliably acting against the national interests of their own countries and for the interest of their sponsors. Surprise, surprise.
The EU is massively investing in strategic autonomy, which of course cannot be achieved over night but there are very meaningful programs going on right now to get there. All of them are wildly opposed by people supporting your stance. Those programs also will not disappear when Trump is gone. Galileo is there to stay, so will be Iris2, European arms programs, improved coordination etc. Unless of course those parties sponsored by Russia manage to convince the majority of the voters. In that case those projects might be killed and we will enter the age of true national sovereignty … for sure.
‘Attachment to Europe’ appears maximum in countries neighbouring Russia
LOL true. But you can hardly blame Eastern Europeans. It is also the area with the most support for a united EU army.
Also countries that received big financial benefits and saw great economic improvements.
Came here to say this, lowest attachment in countries that pay in the most, highest attachment in countries that receive the most.
It’s not perfect, some German areas around the Rhine seem to have a high attachment, as well as Luxemburg, but there is an undeniable pattern.
Not really, Germany is a much larger net contributor than France, yet European identification is a bit stronger. Also Bulgaria vs Romania etc. The correlation you are proclaiming is actually not that strong.
or to England
Whatever differences they may have, at least Europeans can rally around their true common interest: not being Americans. 🇪🇺 🥰
What the FUCK is a kilometer?!?!
Dear Europeans, recognise what you have before you let some insane populist convince you that you don’t need the EU.
Over the channel, we’re economically 8% down from where we would have been if we hadn’t left, there’s no money for anything and we’ve lost a chunk of consumer protection, a lot of data protection and our supreme court seem to be busily dismantling our equalities legislation, despite all that supposedly wonderful parliamentary sovereignty we were told we would regain. It’s all fucked up. Don’t do it. The EU is flawed, but you so very much want to keep in it, trust me.
there’s no money for anything
There is, but there’s no political will to spend it where it’s needed. The government’s spending limits are self imposed.
Don’t worry, here in germany we also don’t have money for anything, and costs for public healthcare are rising again soon, and other social services receive cuts as well. Our infrastructure is shit, digitization barely exists, rents are rising faster than wages, gasoline and Diesel are expensive, and our chancellor tells us we are lazy pieces of shit who don’t work enough whereas in the very same moment companies are doing mass layoffs. The economy as a whole is stagnating and hasn’t experienced meaningful boosts since pre-covid. Our education system is basically the same as it was in Prussia. We have a massive lack of teachers and school buildings are crumbling. And the uncontrolled mass migration makes literally everything I just listed a lot worse.
So don’t worry, you can be in the EU and still everything sucks.
it’s your VDL and her fascists that want to spend all the money on war for the benefit of the US fascists, the ones who bew up out gas pipeline.
I’m surprised that Sicilians are more connected to Country than region.
The map is wrong for Germany. It’s their car.
the car, the dog, perhaps their football club, their partner, kebab prices, gasoline prices and then maybe their country.
They should be more interested in their public transport.
PS Fuck Merz.
countries that depend on the EU for money have a higher attachment.
I’m not surprised.
No. France vs Germany, Romania vs Bulgaria, Crotia vs Austria …
Budapest: HELLO BROTHERS!! I LOVE YOUUUUUU!!
The rest of Europe: Fuck off, dude, we just live in the same neighborhood.
A tiny bit of context:
Hungary just had national elections about 2 months ago, finally pulling the handbrake and getting rid of the previous government’s 16 year old reign. The previous PM (Orbán) had been inching closer to Russia every year, and this year the elections were (among many other things) basically about showing loyalty to Europe instead of taking the final step on the slippery slope and becoming a Russian lapdog again. Since the opposition was the strongest in the capital city, chances are the (only?) red colour on the map represents this, and not Budapest’s all-time excitement over the EU.EDIT: Heh, I didn’t realise the map is from 2021. While the situation has been the case for a while (Orbán announced the opening toward the East way back in the 2010’s), there is a good chance I have completely missed the point.
Also, historical Hungary used to be larger at one point in history, which could (partially?) explain the regional colours in Western Romania and Eastern Austria. Not even necessarily because of the nationality in mind, but it certainly had an influence over culture and politics.
I’m not an expert on Germany, but
their regional divide might be in part due to the East-West divide after WW2EDIT: I’m indeed not an expert on Germany. Please correct me if I’m wrong, since there’s a good chance.(also, OP, I think you wanted to spell ‘feel’ in the title)
You’re indeed wrong about Germany, the different attachments don’t follow the iron curtain at all. Both west-and east Germany have regions with different attachment color.
Most of the regions with a strong regional attachment seem to correspond to the larger independent states before German unification in the 19th century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Germany. Mecklenburg, Wurttemberg, Bayern and Upper Saxony are all 4 recognizable on the map of the op. The bit below Denmark was ruled in a personal union by the Danish monarch before the unification wars.
France tried their best to split Saarland off from Germany several times, which might explain their strong regional attachment.
Well, at least I was right about me being wrong. I guess it’s Friday again.
Sorry, and thanks for the correction! Today I learned.
The image notes that the survey was conducted in 2021. Would that change your assessment?
Haha, lol, I didn’t even notice that : ). TBF it’s been a topic for a few years already, but in that case it might have been a different reason just as well.
I think you were right about opposition being strongest in the capital My experience is big cities are more pro-european in general and rural villages generally more ‘pro-region’, I don’t know about Hungary in particular but i wouldn’t be surprised if that were true there too, not just since Orbán left but also in
20222021Definitely for at least decades, if not for eons. Obviously there are exceptions, but on average the countryside is just not as open and accepting as the average large city dweller.
You see this with support for progressive / conservative policies too. Must be countless studies into what the cause is for this effect.
Hungary = Mongol horde
Something about this comparison stinks. I don’t know what it is, but it’s statistics with an agenda. Something is implied and I don’t like it.
Indeed. There’s a bunch of downvoted comments at the bottom that explain it and get downvoted because of what you described.
That’s not Europeans, only EU.
Of course Åland feels most “regional attachment”, they even have their own flag and ccTLD…
They’re basically Swedes under occupation by Moomin trolls
The inventor of the Moomins was part of the Swedish-speaking minority in Finland, just like all of Åland’s inhabitants are.
Not sure what ccTLD is, but they also have their own stamps and their own government. They are largely autonomous.
TLD = Top Level Domain (
.net,.com, etc).ccTLD = Country Code Top-Level Domain (
.nl,.de,.co.uk, etc)…for now…
Not likely to change.
If Sweden or Finland invaded Åland, it would destroy the only resource that it has: Tax evasion.
Ireland would probably be “region” if it was more fine-grained, nobody is attached to their 30-year old EU NUTS2 demographic division, they’re attached to their counties.
Or at least Cork would be.
*feel
