#Ukraine #Iran

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    27 days ago

    From the article : “Ukraine is losing. Badly. And it is flailing.” : Russian on copium 🤣

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      Is “Russian” an ethnic slur now? Might as well say “orc” while you’re at it.

      Just because their drones can reach Moscow doesn’t mean Ukraine is actually winning on the frontlines. In fact, slowly but surely town after town is taken by Russia.

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      I can’t wait for the inevitable headline of “Ukraine surrenders unconditionally, no longer valid as state” to pop up in mainstream media and it finally shutting up all “pro-ukraine” activists🙄

        • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
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          Well the Ukrainian people would gain from Ukraine ceasing to be a NATO proxy, neo-nazi-run military outpost that runs on kidnapping Ukrainians to force them to fight in a war that doesn’t benefit them, so there is that.

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            Well, they were invaded… But you said you can’t wait, what do you gain from it ?

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                I was more referring to the 3 days military operation. So, what do you think would come out positive for you ?

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                  The american hegemony being weakened, while the axis of resistance (Russia, China, Iran, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea etc.) gets stronger.

                  This, in turn, should allow for socialist revolutions to be much more possible in the world as the links of the imperialist chain have weakened.

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                    This make sense. And what would be the endgoal ? A political system like the one in China, Russia, Iran or North Korea? While being aligned temporarily, they don’t seems to promote the same ideal. Maybe the endgoal is more to have a socialist revolution that would create an entirely new system ?

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                    26 days ago

                    I wanted to answer on your other answer, which was very interesting, but seems the thread was deleted, but I could not find any modlog :(

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          What do the Ukranian citizens gain from the continuation of this war at the behest of Western imperial interests?

          What do they gain from shelling Donbass for almost a decade before 2022?

          This? www.busification.org/en

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            Wouldn’t you fight if a foreign army walked over your land ? What justify invasion according to you ? I mean, even if Zelensky is not the best, does it really seems that worst compared to the current political system in Russia ? Or would you disagree that Putin is an authoritarian dictator ? Went on your website, pretty mild compared to the video from the abuse of Russian soldiers by their own mens.

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              Wouldn’t you fight if a foreign army walked over your land ?

              My land? I do not own any land or country and do not wish so. Currently, western countries are owned and controlled by the capitalist class, so they can fight if they want.

              What justify invasion according to you ?

              Existential threat, like, for example, being non-western aligned and having your neighbor be part of the “eradicate and enslave the not-aligned” organisation aka NATO.

              I mean, even if Zelensky is not the best, does it really seems that worst compared to the current political system in Russia ?

              If Zelensky is not much different, then it should not matter what country takes control.

              Or would you disagree that Putin is an authoritarian dictator ?

              There is no disagreement, you are just wrong. He simply is not a dictator and people mainly listen to him because he has earned their trust.

              Went on your website, pretty mild compared to the video from the abuse of Russian soldiers by their own mens.

              Yeah i don’t think any of that is happening in Russia right now. I am sure there is physical abuse in such strong and patriarchal hierarchies, but definitely not on the level of ripping away mentally disabled people and putting them in a suicide squad. All active russian soldiers are, i think at least, volunteers (in the liberal sense, monetary coercion invalidates pure volunteering in a communist sense i believe).

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              Wouldn’t you fight if a foreign army walked over your land ?

              Not if my land is ruled by actual fascists, who are trying to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine and banning the Russian language.

              What justify invasion according to you ?

              Oh I don’t know, how about shelling and killing citizens of Donbass for years before 2022? When the coup happened in 2014, they knew what was up and chose to defect. Why can’t you respect that?

              I mean, even if Zelensky is not the best, does it really seems that worst compared to the current political system in Russia ?

              He’s a fucking fascist omfg. He’s literally shaken hands with former-ISIS (now president of Syria) and Netanyahu. He wants Ukraine to be the “Greater Israel” of Europe. The AZOV battalion? All of the fascist imagery he’s around? The support for Stepan Bandera? Does nothing trigger any alarms for you?

              Or would you disagree that Putin is an authoritarian dictator ?

              First of all, authoritarian is a thought-terminating cliché. And I support Russia critically because they play a progressive role in fighting against imperialism.

              Went on your website, pretty mild compared to the video from the abuse of Russian soldiers by their own mens.

              Haha holy fuck OK?? You are a fucking fascist. Downplaying the suffering of Ukrainians by the hands of their fascist government to satisfy your racist and hateful fantasy of Russia. Very fucking cool. TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN AM I RIGHT?

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        I don’t think they are working to push them out east with military force directly, but to make it financially not viable to hold on what was invaded.

        Sidenote : Busification was pretty mild compared to the abuse of Russian soldiers by their own.

        Also thank you, I did read as I was genuinely curious, even if I don’t share the same analysis