• Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
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    The guy who said woke (aka not self centered sociopaths) have ruined comedy even though his partner on Seinfeld has had a wildly successful hit comedy series burning everyone for like eight years?

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    I can’t help but notice all the comedians who complain about society being took woke for comedy are has-beens. John Stewart’s back to crushing it at the Daily Show, is he complaining? No, it’s only the guys who’ve run out of material and have nothing left to do but shake their canes at gen Z kids.

    I challenge anyone to go to the “good old days” and find me a comedian who was actually funny and not just being an edgelord. You know who the most popular comedian was in the 80s? Andrew Dice Clay. That’s right. That’s was peak comedy, dirty nursery rhymes. Sure, I get that some people are nostalgic. But let’s be serious for a minute - do we really wanna go back to that kind of comedic void?

    Society hasn’t gotten too woke, rather comedic standards have evolved to the point where merely being offensive in itself no longer counts as comedy.

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      I challenge anyone to go to the “good old days” and find me a comedian who was actually funny and not just being an edgelord.

      The master himself. George Carlin. We could debate whether he was an edge lord or not. But his comedy was timeless and remains hysterical to this day. And his funniest bits were based on observation of the human condition.

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        Carlin also re-invented himself with the times. The comedy he did in the 60s was entirely different from the comedy he did in the 90s.

        Jerry Seinfeld is still doing the same comedy he did in the 80s.

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      This shit couldn’t be more off base lmao.

      Not only have many greats been listed in response to you, you also have relevant comedians today bitching about “woke” as you call it.

      Is Bill Burr an edge lord has-been? Chapelle? Jon Stewart has mentioned this as well. Honestly, I think the meme of “YoU cAnT sAy tHiNgS aNyMoRe” is in over half of standups I watch.

      A huge portion of comedians mention this at some point.

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    Weird choice of quotes and headlines:

    From the OP article:

    “He has been “uncharacteristically vocal” about his support during press calls for his new film, Unfrosted, The New York Times reported.”

    From the NYT link in the quote:

    “As Mr. Seinfeld, who has recently been vocal about his support for Israel, received an honorary degree, dozens of students walked out and chanted, “Free, free Palestine,” while the comedian looked on and smiled tensely”

    But when you go to the link to the NY Times article that references Mr. Seinfeld as being recently vocal about his support of Israel, one of the concluding comments in the article is:

    Surely, Mr. Seinfeld sees it differently. His public comments have largely avoided geopolitical specifics, dwelling little on the choices of the Netanyahu government or prospective conditions for a cease-fire.

    And he can still sound hesitant even in recent discussions about the Jewishness of “Seinfeld” — which an NBC executive once described as “too New York, too Jewish.”

    Nothing about this makes me think Seinfield is a a strong supported of the war. Support for Israel after the attack can be a lot of things and does not mean pro Netanyahu war machine.

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    I read that one of the Charities he donates to is actively engaging in the suffering of the Palestenians.

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    I’m confused. By all accounts Jerry and the entire cast came together to point out their hate for Trump and Republicans. But because he doesn’t agree with one issue he’s been labeled as a right winger? I’m so far left that young leftists think I’m too extreme, to the point where they call be right wing for disagreeing with every tiny thing they say. The young left have become the keepers of “right/wrong think”

    Edit: a lot of young people who call themselves left, are doing everything possible to push people away from the left, instead of making them allies.

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      And the dude openly dated a minor when he was nearly 40, "Shoshanna is a person, not an age. She is extremely bright. She’s funny, sharp, very alert. We just get along. You can hear the click.”

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        Chappelle has said far worse things about every other race than Richards did about black people that night, but as we know that somehow doesn’t count

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          You might not have noticed, but young adults aren’t big Chapelle fans these days either. The whole transphobia thing doesn’t play so well with the under-40s.

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      The “one issue” happens to be supporting a genocide, so it’s kind of a big one? I haven’t seen anyone calling him right-wing, but you can bet if cops were firing rubber bullets at peaceful student protesters under a republican administration, every lefty from NY to LA would be wringing their hands and crying “fascism”. The times they are a-changing my friend. It’s not just about left or right, and I’m glad these kids understand that.

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      “”“One issue”“”

      Which is supporting a genocide.

      Also he’s recently joined the whole “woke has ruined comedy” bit. Which is very much right wing.

      Oh and he’s also a predator that dated a teenager when he was in his 30s.

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      I’ve always found the left more annoying than the right. The right are wrong, but the left are self-righteous smug dickheads. Liberals are like a chimera of both and I think that’s why I hate them more than the right even though they’re objectively less bad. That’s my shitty analysis anyway.

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      It’s just the rise of loud, groupthink edgelords, refusing to think past a hyper-emotional brainwash.

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      That’s how it works these days.

      I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports. This makes me a anti-trans nazi in the vast majority of leftie/progressivist people’s eyes, who clearly is a closeted Trump supporter. It’s the whole ‘we must be intolerant of intertolerance’ type fo thing… but they’ve twist it to ‘we must be intolerant of any disagreement whatsoever with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality’.

      There is no allowance for variance of reasonable opinion or an objective reality. You are with us, or against us, and therefore the enemy.

      Lefties and young folks who are left leaning tend to be as braindead and lockstep as the Trumpers they claim to hate.

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        My opinion on trans athletes is that I lack the qualifications to have an opinion. What happens to the human body during transition should be pretty well-documented by now, though. I’m sure if there’s any real problem, the doctors who work in gender-affirming care would be pretty vocal about it.

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        How often did you watch women’s sports before you became aware of the controversial issue of trans women competing in them?

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        “I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports.”

        If you’re “pro-trans” then that means you believe that, for example, a trans woman is a woman, because she says she is.

        So then you don’t believe women should compete in women’s sports?

        Showing your ass there, huh?