“Violate Terms of Service” 😂 such agressive language for not wanting to watch endless ads for 2 min videos.
Get fucked.
YouTube violates MY terms of service when it abuses my network infrastructure and resources to download data I did not request.
Violate is standard legal language for breaking a contract or agreement
That sucks. Do you have access to a VPN with servers in Albania or Moldova? They still don’t allow ads in youtube videos.
Happened to me last month, I set proton VPN to an Albanian server and everything worked until uBlock got updated to suppress the black screen of death again. Good luck!
I love that their warning is an admission of failure
I wonder which will happen first: I’ll quit watching youtube because the platform becomes too much of a pain in the ass for me to bother with, or I’ll quit watching youtube because of how difficult it is to find content I actually want to watch.
I’ve got a few Patreon shows that host video content on YouTube, but because they’re directly linked and not monetized through YouTube they’re pretty friendly to visit.
I do need a better way to find streamable music. YouTube Music has been a miserable experience, but it has the largest library short of Spotify, which is also miserable.
I found YTM to have more niche music selections vs Spotify.
You could always try plexamp if you want to self-host.
Functionally it works (barring technical difficulties)
But it means building up a large personal library, when what I’d prefer is a browsable public music library.
Just go to yewtu.be same thing. No ads, no tracking or analyzing you.
Google foiled again by the yews!! 😂
As soon as YT started blocking blockers, I created a new Firefox profile with only Bitwarden (just need that everywhere) and uBlock Origin ONLY. Using that has never failed me once this whole time.
When I forget to access YT through my special profile (and therefore only utilize those two plugins) I do see errors. I assume this is due to either uMatrix, AdNauseum or some combination of the two.
Still works for me with a combination of Firefox, uBlock and a VPN. I assume sharing an IP with thousands of other people screws up their detection algorithm.
Datura Network’s Invidious instance has a rotating IP, so it’s considerably harder for Google to block it.
Ad blockers assert your belief in the web browser as user agent, not server agent
- We know you’re using an ad blocker. How dare you.
- Alphabet’s cross-subsidy, and the political value of controlling the Overton window, allows Youtube to remain publicly accessible.
- You can get double-penetrated with Youtube Premium, first on the subscription fee then on the usage analytics.
I can’t wait for the plugin that replaces all the ads with black and white mime videos
Am I the only one that pays for YouTube Premium? I get not wanting to pay for things. I don’t feel bad for Google here, but I also don’t understand what people expect. The government happily subsidizes Musk to litter outerspace. Maybe the government should be subsidizing YouTube?
I’d pay for it if they didn’t overcharge so much. Their content is provided to them for free, but they charge more than Netflix to distribute it. Fuck that.
But in theory they’re paying for that content out of Premium subscriptions.
Probably not enough, but that’s supposed to be part of what it’s for.
YouTube ad tier: $0
Netflix ad tier: $6.99
YouTube premium: $13.99
Netflix standard: $15.49Huge caveats incoming.
They don’t charge more than Netflix, but most of their content is definitely provided to them for free. On top of that, most of YouTube’s original content is behind their premium subscription paywall. I tried to see how many of their originals shows are actually viewable with their ad tier and it’s hard to pin down a number. My speculation is it doesn’t matter because either so few people are willing to pay for premium or their originals aren’t very marketable. Off the top of my head I’d heard of exactly one YouTube original.
Netflix lowest ad-free price was $9.99 until three days ago.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/2/24190632/netflix-ad-free-basic-plan-discontinued
Oh thanks I was looking at old information.
EDIT: I realized now you’re just giving supplemental old info.
I should’ve specified I was citing Netflix’s current US pricing https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926 and YouTube’s current US pricing https://www.youtube.com/premium.
I’m okay with seeing an acceptable level of advertisement. Content creators have ad reads within their videos which are skippable, and they’ve resorted to that because YouTube doesn’t pay very well. It used to be that you’d get a short ad at the start of every video or two, and maybe another short ad per 7 minutes or so. Now, it’s pretty common for every video to have at least 20 seconds of ad before starting and another 10-30 seconds of ad every 3-5 minutes or so. I like watching on my PS5 while doing chores, so I’m subject to all of these ads. I actually have fully abandoned videos halfway in because of ads that were 60 seconds before I would have the option to “skip” the ad.
I pay for enough things in my life that I was okay with the trade-off of the ads on YouTube. Now, it’s (no joke) about 5 minutes of ads interrupting a 20 minute video, and there’s usually a 2 minute ad read within that 20 minute video, so really 7 minutes of ads per 18 minutes of content. But it’s not really 18 minutes of content because there’s an intro, an outro, and a “remember to like, comment, subscribe, and smash that bell” bullshit too. It’s roughly 2:1 ratio of actual content to ads and fluff. I’m not fucking paying to take it from 2:1 to 3:1 and they can eat my entire asshole for even suggesting such a thing. Maybe instead of trying to hold eyeballs ransom with the choice of either subscription payments or and overabundance of ads, they should charge for uploading videos to their servers. Sound like a terrible idea? Then I’m sure they’ll do it within 5 years. Because fuck everybody, that’s why.
You might want to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q3ZXQZZlcE
Did you mean this? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4Q3ZXQZZlcE
Try Brave browser. It work
Yup. Brave works great on iPhone, too. PiP, no ads, even downloads work fine. And thanks to Airdrop I can watch ad free on TV.
Until yesterday I had a cheap Premium subscription going on but YouTube cancelled it because they found out I don’t live in Asia. Like fuck, it’s not about the money. 5? Maybe 6 or 7? That would have been fine by me. But 20 fucking bucks a month for that? Yeah, nah. Either fix your prices or I will continue to look for workarounds.
Switch over to Brave browser. Its native adblock works better than uBlock anyway.
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the crypto bro scam browser I will l would now trust less than Chrome after that whole debacle
Edit: oh and the homophobia too, and I think there’s one other thing
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Google cornered the video market and killed all competition by mining all of our data and selling it for years.
Now that they are too big to fail they want to turn around and extort us all. The price for premium is NOT reasonable.
This isn’t some mom and pop company trying to serve videos. They abused their size and are now abusing it again.
And the fact that there’s people like you defending them is a problem. We have to fight the mega corp and the bootlickers in our ranks.
Wait, how did they kill all competition by mining our data? Because they could do things cheaper than compwtitors, or…?
The literarily made money off our backs by selling our privacy. Using those I’ll-gotten gians they pushed out the competition.
They didn’t do things “cheaper” they just stole from all of us and now they want more money on top.
You seem like you’re getting distracted here. I’m asking about the claim about them killing off competition by stealing our data. Can you go into more detail on how that worked, how the stealing of our data killed off the competition?
I can probably help with some of the explanation on this. Not necessarily the data stealing side of things but definitely how they killed off competition. Youtube operated at a loss for a looong time while providing a stable and well functioning platform where creators could make a decent amount of money this resulted in year over year userbase growth. This not only made it harder for other platforms to break into the market as no creator would want to spend time making content on a platform with less users but also the other platforms did not have the capital behind them to operate at such a loss so they die out or they get purchased by google/youtube for a bargain and get shut down. Now youtubes userbase is so captive that they are pretty much free to essentially abuse their users almost as much as they want because as a viewer theres not really any other platform out there that has the creators you watch and as a creator theres no platform thatll get you enough views to be sustainable. Its a cycle that has to be kicked off by something big like youtube going down because thats the only way users are going to migrate.
You kind of see something similar with big box stores, companies moving into areas or even just gas stations. Big gas station companies arent in the gas business, they are in the real estate and convenience store business. They often sell gas at a loss even though they have their own fuel logistics supply chain. Other stations who rely on income from fuel sales and less so convenience sales struggle because they cant secure the selection in the store and dont have their own fuel logistics. Many go belly up unless they have something unique that keeps people coming in like restaurants or a unique drink selection. Once most if not all the local stores go out of business then the big store prices rise and the consumer is abused.
Google has stated that theyve operated youtube at a loss for a very long time but (and this is my speculation) its been done intentionally to edge out the competition and retain sympathy from its userbase to justify the abuse. Youtube is making massive revenue but they are spending it. If google/alphabet didnt see it as a profit stream it would have been killed a long time ago. My theory is they are sorta playing the game from both sides and overspending on overhead and padding the execs wallets more and more just to tell investors and shareholders that while revenue has increased, so has overhead/labor/etc just to take home their own fat paycheck while also milking their userbase for as much as they can. At some point its gunna break but execs have already made out on their goods. Yes video hosting and platform development is expensive but I do believe youtube is not spending most of its money there and that it doesent need all the overhead spending think of how crappy their content review system is. Nothing gets seen by a human except in very specific circumstances
Ok, thanks. So because they were subsidizing video costs by selling out data.
That’s what I meant when I said “cheaper” and he pushed back, but maybe that wasn’t clear enough.
I’m curious if there’s data for how much this was a factor, vs the traditional “giant company with deep pockets is willing to fund at a loss to grow market share” situation.
Either way, I probably understand what he meant now which is what I was after, thanks.
You’re minimizing the abuse. Used to be fine with ads when it was 1-2 max but then it got abusive and greedy. Someone who yells at you once or twice may just be angry, upset, or so on. Someone who yells at you constantly is abusive
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Gaslighting is another way people justify abuse
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