The Trump administration recently published “America’s AI Action Plan”. One of the first policy actions from the document is to eliminate references to misinformation, diversity, equity, inclusion, and climate change from the NIST’s AI Risk Framework.

Lacking any sense of irony, the very next point states LLM developers should ensure their systems are “objective and free from top-down ideological bias”.

Par for the course for Trump and his cronies, but the world should know what kind of AI the US wants to build.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    115
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    2 days ago

    Again, AMERICA doesn’t want this. This is some dumb shit from a mentally deficient and decrepit old man that somehow got elected under very shady terms by a minority of the country.

    • Part4@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Sorry America voted for this twice. You do not get to disown this after the fact.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        This, at least, is a fact.

        You could have voted Green. You could have voted Marianne Williamson in the Democratic primary. The little power our voters do have they just wasted.

    • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      38
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      1 day ago

      As a US citizen, prove to me that most Americans don’t want this.

      Yeah, I see the protests, even in my Trump-loving town.

      But that’s it. People holding signs.

      I don’t see aggressive action. I don’t see the necessary violence - yeah I said it.

      I’m moving out of the country because everyone I’ve tried to rally says they’re too busy, they don’t have time, they care but they don’t care that much, they think everything will work out, or they believe it isn’t as bad as the news says.

      The people I’ve voted for and elected just sit on their hands and do fuck all.

      I’m 110% for fighting for and defending what I used to believe in, but not when literally all evidence and signs point to nobody else giving a shit.

      Someone call me when you’re ready to legitimately strategize about how to topple this fascist regime.

      • thedruid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        As a u s citizen, you’re wrong. End of story most don’t want it. Trump wants it. No one voted for trump because of a I. So stop lying to people here.

        Oh and since you’re so gungho to do it, why aren’t you taking the steps above?

        Because it seems awful like you’re a Trumper trying to stir violence

        • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          21 hours ago

          As stated, I’ve tried rallying in my area and nobody seems interested. I’m also at a disadvantage if I just go at it alone because I’m not white.

    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Beat me to it. Most same Americans don’t want this, it’s the current administration and their moronic lap dogs, and the conglomerates that are paying into Cheeto’s personal accounts to “influence him” that want this. Id hope that most of us realize how insanely idiotic this is.

      Also to, AI anti-regulation 2: electric boogaloo? Like they literally just tried to shoehorn this into the big bullshit bill only for it to get yanked, and that was what, two weeks ago?

      • just_another_person@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Yup. That’s never going to fly, and even if it does, that doesn’t mean the Executive all of a sudden gets to start telling private companies how they can and can’t operate according to the law. It’s so stupid.

    • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      While I understand what you are saying, let’s not forget that the people who helped the turd get into power were not just those actively voting for him but also those who didn’t vote because “both sides!!”. That’s not “a minority of the country” but actually the majority of it.

    • thedruid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      Thank you anyone who profiles entire people with stereotypes and outright lies is a bigot, no matter what they say

      • CXORA@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 day ago

        So it’s a stereotype to describe what a country is literally doing … okay.

        • thedruid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          It’s a stereotype to ascribe traits to an entire group of people when you say “America” or “Americans” in The context given. Otherwise one would say , the United States government.

          Of course , that requires effort.

      • themurphy@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 day ago

        Like how some americans see the Middel East, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, Mexico etc etc etc…

        Its not nice when its going the other way, is it.

        • thedruid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          I don’t do that because it wouldn’t be right. Doesn’t matter who did what to me in the past.

          For instance if you were a plumber and you intentionally smashed a piece of furniture while at a clients house, does that mean all plumbers are violently vandalizing people’s homes ,no.

          Because adult human beings know that the actions of one do not define the actions of all.

          I am not changing this position. You can get the last word, throw an insult at me or do nothing.

          Choice is yours but I’m done. I don’t have to defend the correct position. It is correct.

          • themurphy@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            You are right. I don’t disagree at all. But racist mentallity is insane, and that is what I’m calling out. As do you.

          • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            I just, I do not understand why this upsets people so much.

            I work for a company that does things I don’t want them to do all the time. I’ve never felt like someone saying “[the company] wants to do [this thing]” was ever referring to me specifically whatsoever.

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              20 hours ago

              What if they said employees of your company all support a thing? That would include you.

              It’s absolutely insane to say all Americans support Trump when he has a net negative approval rating pretty much everywhere, including red states. Look at the opinion polls, most people don’t like what’s going on. Yet for some reason, people claim the majority of us like him for some reason.

              • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                20 hours ago

                What if they said employees of your company all support a thing? That would include you.

                But no one is doing this. America is a state.

                  • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    19 hours ago

                    “Americans do X”

                    *America. Look at the title again.

                    I gotta be honest, I don’t understand what you’re fighting for here. That people in Finland will have a slightly better opinion of you? Mexico will know you’re one of the good ones?

                    Russia has done a lot of disagreeable things, I’ve got to imagine its people are pretty upset about it.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        LOL

        Sure, Jan.

        We should stop it. Period. I’ll snap my non-billionaire fingers and just stop it. Like I’m Dorothy and clicking my ruby slippered heels together.

        Most Americans are working three jobs and 100 hours a week to be able to rent a roach-infested studio and keep their kids from starving.

        AI isn’t even in the top ten of issues that most Americans have the time or energy to confront in a meaningful way.

        But let’s not allow the reality of life in this country to interfere with a good, silly Internet screed.

        • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          You just described a country full of miserable people with nothing to lose who are STILL doing fuck all.

          Was it your intent to bring their cowardice into starker relief, or to pretend that somehow they’re excused from acting like humans with agency because… “it’s hard?”

      • toomanypancakes@piefed.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        You’re right, everybody without the money to make the trip should travel 2000 miles (3218 km) to commit suicide by cop. That’s sensible.

    • bollybing@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      1 day ago

      So do something about it. If you just sit there and post “I don’t want this” on the Internet they’re just going to keep doing it.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        22 hours ago

        Like what?

        • vote? I already did, three times, and he still won by 20% margin
        • message my reps? They’re all Republicans.
        • protest? That’s only slightly more effective than posting online, and carries the risk of arrest and whatnot
        • attempt an assassination? Yeah right, I’m not getting close w/ the Secret Service, and I’d just leave my kids without one of their parents and income
        • move? All my family and friends live here, and I actually like my country, I just don’t like this admin; and wouldn’t that just concentrate the crazies a bit more?

        There’s not really anything I can reasonably do, other than sit tight and teach my kids how to be excellent people.

    • brianpeiris@lemmy.caOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      31
      ·
      2 days ago

      What matters more? What AMERICA wants, or what the administration enacts in to policy? You’re missing the point if you’re arguing about my phrasing.

      • just_another_person@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        28
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        The phrasing means everything.

        Example: “Trump wants…”

        VS

        Example: “America wants…”

        Big difference. Executive Orders are a memo, not law. It’s disturbing that I have to keep saying this and explaining this.

        • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          You know, this might actually be really bad politics.

          Trump is not the only person at the top. He’s kind of a lame duck, actually: he just does whatever Miller says. The only time he steps in is when he’s personally insulted by something because he desperately wants everyone to know he’s a very special boy.

          I do take issue with democrats blaming everything the republicans are up to on Trump specifically, as if the party might return to normal once he dies.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            22 hours ago

            It probably will return somewhat to normal, assuming public opinion continues on its trajectory. People overwhelmingly don’t like Trump, so anyone affiliated w/ him are going to hurt in the next couple elections unless public opinion turns around.

            I don’t know what “normal” looks like, but it’s probably somewhere between Trump and Bush. I’m still not a fan, but moving away from Trump is going to be a net win.

            • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              20 hours ago

              anyone affiliated w/ him

              Well, this is what I’m asking for, so I sure hope so.

              but it’s probably somewhere between Trump and Bush.

              So, keep in mind, republican voters are not upset with Trump because they’ve decided they no longer want a border wall. The architects of Project 2025 don’t need anything from Trump but political power, which they already have.

              The next election cycle, if it’s real, I do imagine will swing back, but it cannot just “swing back,” it needs to deal with the sickness plaguing the US. That sickness is the republican party. That sickness is the republican voter.

              • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                19 hours ago

                That sickness is the republican party. That sickness is the republican voter.

                I disagree, and this just smacks of tribalism.

                The problem is people wanting to force others into their worldview, parties are just a tool to get that done. The real solution is ending the two party system so people can express themselves better, not to replace one problem with another.

          • just_another_person@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            I’m arguing that you’re intentionally trying to play semantics with phrasing and claim it doesn’t matter, when it absolutely does, and everyone in here is explaining to you why. That’s all.

            • brianpeiris@lemmy.caOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              15
              ·
              2 days ago

              Okay. My argument is that the semantics don’t matter because what matters is policy.

              • just_another_person@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                2 days ago

                And since you did use the word “policy”, I did mention that EO’s aren’t laws. It’s a memo. He has no control via EOnof anyone except the people in his purview. Not private companies, not researches, not law, not state governments.

                  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    EO’s are policy insofar as they can affect the Executive Branch and what it controls, and nothing else. The history of the use is mainly for “the spirit” of something, but only in the past 20 years or so has been weaponized to be used for trying to attempt to guide actual policy. Never in the way Trump has tried to use them, which is “law by decree”.

                    The joke is they know it’s bullshit and meaningless. This all happened in his first term. 220 total, 157 shot down in court, 27 revoked. It’s an office memo at best. Biden even tried to do thenstudent debt cancellation through EO, and it got shot down in court.

      • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        2 days ago

        That…what???

        No, your choice of phrasing conveys your message.

        If you’re argument is not against the American people, but rather the administration, then your wording is, well, wrong.

          • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            19
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            No. You’re dodging the argument. You chose to phrase it that way. And pretending that’s just some incidental thing with no meaning honestly is about the dumbest response I’ve seen in a while.

            You have made the argument that it is the American people, not the administration. You. Not anybody else.

                • brianpeiris@lemmy.caOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  13
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  Based on your post history, I think we’re on the same side. I understand that this administration does not represent all of America. Unfortunately though, the semantics of it all don’t really matter. Trump got the majority vote, and that’s what matters. The effects of his policies matter. From the perspective of the rest of the world, this is what (the majority of) America has chosen. I don’t like it either.

                  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    Friend, seriously…listen to the very clear reason being used to explain the deficiency of your argument here.

                    The way you phrase something absolutely changes the meaning of its point. You can’t say something and then try to justify that the ends are the same, so it’s cool. Literally why people use the phrase “the ends don’t justify the means”.

                    If Trump comes out and says some dumb shit, you can’t just say “AMERICA WANTS THIS”, because that is obviously untrue.

                    It would work the same way with 4 people in a car, and the driver wants hamburgers. The entire car doesn’t want hamburgers, just the driver of the car. How you want to argue the outcome or explanation of that very much decides on how you intend to phrase the situation. All you know right now is that the driver wants a hamburger, so it would disingenuous to say everyone wants hamburgers.