• Vieric@lemmy.world
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    Whatever damn fool did this has just made the situation about a million times worse. I don’t give a shit who did this, it was the worst move you could have made at the worst time you could have made it.

    And those of you jumping to immediate conspiracy theories need to stop and think about how much we tend to make fun of Republicans for doing literally the exact same thing. Us spending the next 3 days circlejerking each other off our own bullshit conspiracy theories isn’t gonna help the situation, its just gonna make us all look like a bunch of hypocrites. Wait a few days, get whatever info they are willing to give us, and then try to figure out what happened. If it still looks fake or like a false flag or whatever the fuck after that point, whatever. but for gods sake use some critical thinking to get there instead of jumping to conclusions with no info.

    For what its worth, I am extremely anti-trump, I am scared shitless of what will happen should he win a second term. But dear god, please think about the way you all are acting, when you act like the same kind of psychopaths you claim to stand against it is not a good look. please consider that before you post.

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      I don’t think this will change a thing. Nobody is changing their vote over this.

      It’s just an attempt to incite violence.

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          It doesn’t for Democrat voters. They’re only voting against Trump. This doesn’t change who DT is, his viewpoints, or his past actions. This doesn’t change him being a Felon and a suspected pedophile. All this is an attempt to incite more violence.

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            Let me present an situation to you:

            Trump and his party: “a crazy left wing fucker tried to kill me. Let’s take them Dems down vote repub” and lots of other pushing agendas and statements about Dems being killers.

            If you don’t feel like this isn’t more fuel for that then again you are missing the point. This will absolutely shift votes.

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              How is this going to “shift votes”? How exactly? From who? Who’s really on the fence between the “Old man” and the convicted felon suspected to be a pedophile attempting to become king? No sane person is shifting vote over this and the insane are already vehemently R.

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      I’m no conspiracy guy… But goddam they sure did take their pick of pictures to release showing a bloody trump with fist up in front of a flag that just happened to be waving there. If nothing else, GOP and FOX will say the libs tried to kill Trump, not ’ the assassin’ tried, but the libs tried. And let the fundraising begin for the GOP

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      I could not agree more. Aren’t we supposed to be the ones who care about democracy, about humanity, and about logic and reason?

      Some innocent bystander died, and their family is going to sleep tonight without their loved one alive for the first time. Others are waiting anxiously in hospitals while their innocent loved ones are in critical condition. Fuck Trump, but no one deserves to have been killed or maimed for being at one of his rallies.

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      The amount of folks in here that seem to be okay with someone being assassinated is disgusting. This is not how sane people get things accomplished. Shameful.

      I loathe Trump, but man, the hypocrisy in the air is stifling.

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    Wouldnt it be crazy if trump had some life changing moment being shot and tries to turn his shit around. Totally not going to happrn, but the slim possibility is there.

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    Why are people screaming and afraid? Guns are a part of society in America. Unless… they’re dangerous…

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      The secret service didn’t let anyone but the shooter have a gun, so everyone’s feeling awkward

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    This was the worst possible outcome. Unless someone intends on finishing the job it may as well be his election now.

    He’ll spend the rest of the election telling people how strong he is, how Biden could not have survived and he’ll use the attack to validate all his claims of Democrat corruption/Republican righteousness.

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      Doubt it. The people, the actual Democratic voters, not numbers, know what’s at stake, nobody is changing their vote over this, nobody is going to lose votes over this.

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        I feel like you’re a little out of touch here.

        There are hardline Democrats and Republicans who aren’t going to change their positions over anything. There’s also many people who don’t pay close attention to politics and only pick up on big news like this. Those are the people that are going to be influenced unfortunately. These people exist. They are uninformed, easily influenced and they can swing the outcome unfortunately.

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    For the people saying that the shoes comment is odd, take moment to do some reading, or watch a video, about how people react to trauma.

    Basically, it’s not outrageous that his brain locked on a seemingly unimportant detail. Humans are very weird sometimes.

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    Okay, I’ve gotten over my initial shock of this. Clearly this shouldn’t have happened but this is the same guy who said his VP should be hanged, and he himself has called for political violence against his enemies many, many times

    I am glad that decent politicians are condemning this attack, as they should. But I think it makes sense to put this incident in perspective, Trump has promoted and supported political violence himself many times before this, including on Jan 6th

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    I don’t think this will change much. Biden’s response might. But politically, identity politics outweigh martyrdom in US. The right will get rightier and the left leftier. Most likely outcome IMO is emboldened like-actors on either side. Undecided voters could react maybe, but are they really that keyed in to be undecided in the first place?

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    So 3 shots fired (rest were more rapid, so looked like SS responding), 2 people died, only trump get out of it without any major issue. A grazed ear implies that he survived by mere centimeters.

    Then when going to the car he is mouthing “fight, fight, fight”. I’m sorry, but this is a very odd reaction for somebody that nearly died today.

    He was trying to get people rioting on J6 (but that while succeeded, fortunately got stopped), he tried people to riot when he had criminal trial (didn’t work at all), and now in the heat of the moment, he thought that was perfect time to try it again?

    For sake of everyone I hope this will also be unsuccessful. I’m glad Democrats quickly condemned this (this is something we quite missed in 2017-2020 when similar events happened).

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    Anyone got insights to a right-wing forum and what they’re saying? Blaming the libs? Advocating for violence? What conspiracies are they putting together?

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      This is from Nigel Farage, a UK right wing politician - blaming the liberals and their rhetoric for encouraging it to happen.

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      Right wingers on Twitter are saying libs “need to pay”, Biden did it, even… “god saved Trump” - Marco Rubio

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    Gotta love how people are instantly pulling a QAnon deal of “ITS A FALSE FLAG, FAKE NEWS, NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A GRAND CABAL!”

    I’m more pissed at how they missed the big orange fucker. Aim better next time.

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      That image is not high enough quality to say that.

      There is a noticably bloody area in is right upper earlobe that could be a chunk taken out by basically a 5.56 round, but again, its too crappy to be definitive.

      Also this twitter poster claiming it is a bb gun is a fucking moron.

      BB Guns do not have have an echoing report after the initial shot, as is easily audible from the shots that occur after the audio re equalizes when Trump goes down from the podium.

      The audio sounds tinny and poppy because it is equalized for human voice in a large outdoor environment. A BB gun would not be audible whatsoever.

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    It’s very sad to see people condoning this. I’m far from a Trump supporter, but this is unacceptable. If this was Biden being shot at, you’d all be saying “typical right wing, gun-toting nutjobs.”

    Plus what you fail to understand is that Trump being shot at is just further securing his presidency, and anyone who was previously on the fence will now be more inclined to vote for the person who was “shot at for his beliefs.”

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      I have to say without condoning it, his hate speeches have brought him hate. I’m honestly surprised this is the first attempt.

      It’s interesting times to hear of an assassination attempt and no one I’ve talked to Republican or Democrat is shocked. It just fits Trumps style of politics.

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      Thats idiotic. For one thing, ill disavow stochastic terrorism as soon as the right does for anybody not on their side. Certainly I dont support it, but are you really gonna claim you think itd be bad if this stuff happened more often targeting conservatives? I dont give a shit that trump got shot at except to be happy that it happened, and the rest of america isnt that dumb either.

      Of course its unacceptable, but its literally the definition of “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”. Assassination attempts come with the territory of being a fascist, this event is exactly the same as a lion eating a gazelle. Im happy that nature is taking its course as intended, but im not gonna go around taking sides on the issue.

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    Ever noticed that every time the republicans look like they are doomed, immediately something progressively more implausible happens that swings the vote? And that it’s usually fake or blown out of proportion by media? This looks like just the most recent of a long list of ridiculous but effective marketing operations like the pizza gate.