• S_204@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    And before before the Arab conquest Jerusalem was in the hands of the Jews. It also shouldn’t be lost that Jews have lived there even under the brutal Arab regimes for over 3,000 years…

    The entire point of decolonization is giving the land back to the people who are indigenous to it. Arabs are not indigenous to Judea. They come from the Arabian Peninsula.

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      2 years ago

      The entire point of decolonization is giving the land back to the people

      How indigenous are we talking about? 3000 years? 3 million years? Might start filling up my pool and get some fish in there.

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        2 years ago

        Back to the initiation of the culture… this isn’t hard to understand. Is there a 3 million year old culture remaining today? No.

        There’s a 3000 year old one though and they’re in their homelands again.

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      2 years ago

      First, don’t conflate Israel with Jews. It is a government not a religious authority, and using Judaism as a veil is deeply antisemitic.

      Second, this is an infantile understanding of colonization. Shall we give Crimea back yo to the Greeks? They inhabited it 3,000 years ago. Clearly not, and if Greece invaded and exploited the land and the people we’d call them colonists.

      This blood and soil logic is exactly what european nationalists use to expell Jews. Comically such advocates of this logic also rarely support returning land to indigenous peoples in the US…

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        2 years ago

        What a stupid take. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, it’s intractable from the Jewish people. Don’t be so ignorant. Next week Jews will celebrate the return to their homeland from exile in Egypt, they’ve been doing so for thousands of years.

        Your understanding of indigeneity doesn’t come close to the established academic or real world understanding of it. If the Greeks had remained in Crimea, maintained the language and culture like the Jews have done then yes they’d absolutely be considered indigenous. There are a dozen examples of these sorts of people’s across the MENA region, they’re all indigenous, not the Arab invaders who forcibly colonised the land.