• Godric@lemmy.world
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    To paraphrase: “The Houthis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them.”

    Maybe don’t bomb people, and, failing that, don’t be surprised when they bomb you back.

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        Funnier still how the headlines on certain publications work. Houthis bomb Israel, Israel bombs them back; headline is “Israel bombs Yemen in Escalation with Houthis”.

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      Anecdotally, I lived in Sanaa for a while as a kid in the '80’s, and one of my enduring memories is seeing kids in the street with AK’s. Other highlights included being chased up a pile of concrete and rebar by a pack of wild dogs, and riding in a helicopter that they used in one of the Rambo movies (the Afghanistan one, I think).

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          Hey, I appreciate the sentiment. I didn’t really think any of that was trauma-inducing—except the dogs, but a friendly labrador helped me get over that a year or two later. Luckily, I’ve stocked up on all kinds of trauma since then! These are just colorful childhood memories.

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    In it’s ‘war against Hamas’ Israel has now bombed 3 countries that has no Hamas

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      The problem with the Israeli attacks i gaza is not the attacks themselves. Israel should have the right to defend themselves on all sides.

      The problem is, that in Palestine they are using this as an excuse to kill as many civilians as they can get away with. This is genocide. They are more or less regulating the population of Palestine, and arguing that they in reality are fighting Hamas. The civilians are unfortunate accidents (that more or less keep on happening day in and day out)

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        Because cowering behind civilians in the hopes their deaths garner sympathy is totally not in the terrorist handbook

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              I do not support Israel.

              But if you’re referring to Hamas, I don’t support them either; as I clearly said I don’t support the killing of innocent people. Even if that is in response to the murder of innocent people.

              Hamas suck, As does the Israeli government and anybody that supports their actions over the last 9/10 months and even longer than that to be honest.

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            When there are literally thousands of serial killers and the school was declared closed but filled with children to protect the serial killers it is justified at this point because to negotiate with terrorists itself promotes these tragedies. A school gets flattened so a dozen others might live. The greater good.

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                So if the only way to save your children was to pull a lever to have the trolley hit another child who happens to also be throwing rocks at yours you’d not pull it? You’d watch your children get run over to save the life of a hostile child? How believable you sound.

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                Whenever I’m curious about how people got in the frame of mind to support the Nazis, I just have to see those kinds of comments to remember how. Some people haven’t evolved past that dehumanization apparently.

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                  That dude has Ukraine flag too… You would think that he would known what it means to be an underdod getting raw dawged.

                  It ain’t like Israel is a Ukrainian or Canadian ally, well maybe Canada not sure tho

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            Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.

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      People have been warning from day 1 about the possibility of a regional escalation.

      Apparently you cannot spend months acting in a way that neighboors who already don’t like you find morally reprehensible without some of those neighbors inserting themselves into the conflict.

      The real question is how long can Iran avoid getting dragged into that. And if Iran gets involved directly, will we be able to contain this to a regional war, or will this small decades old conflict between parties whose total population is only about 12 million become the trigger for world war 3.

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      Houthis have been getting bombed of more than four years now by United States and Saudi Arabia. Israel ain’t gonna do shit.

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          I’m really getting tired of people casting these murderers in a good light just because they’re fighting Israel.

          Not every fight has a good side and a bad side. Sometimes they’re both bad sides. If North Korea and Mynamar went to war, I would hope no one here would be cheering either side on.

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            It depends how it starts. If North Korea invades a city, slaughters a bunch of innocents while looking them in the eyes, retreats taking a bunch of hostages to boot, and justifies it with a history of shared animosity they’re probably not going to be the sympathetic ones regardless of the opponent being Myanmar.

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              slaughters a bunch of innocents while looking them in the eyes

              So it’s the eye contact that you object to?

              Because the occupation forces have been doing the rest of the things you list and more for 75 years.

              I’m not saying that justifies terrorism, nothing does, but if you want to cast the greater villain, it behooves you to choose the ones that have killed, raped and abducted by far the greater numbers while being the only ones with the power to stop or at the very least dramatically deescalate the atrocities.

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                No, Hamas has the power to stop. All they have to do is surrender and release the hostages. After that if Israel continues THEN it is a genocidal atrocity. Until then it is the intentional consequences of Hamas hiding behind children to protect themselves. The only reason Israel has the higher body count is Hamas uses mass civilian casualties to try and garner sympathy (and you’re supporting that strategy). Not Israel’s fault. Negotiating with terrorists is unethical.

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                  Hamas has the power to stop

                  The power to stop Israel? The FUCK they do!

                  All they have to do is surrender and release the hostages

                  Bullshit. Netanyahu himself keeps saying that they’ll not accept any deal that doesn’t let them resume the genocide after getting the hostages back.

                  Hamas and the hostages are just pretenses covering for the fact that the fascist apartheid regime is hellbent on killing or displacing all Palestinians and erasing all traces of them ever existing in Gaza.

                  After that if Israel continues THEN it is a genocidal atrocity.

                  As I pointed out above, the intent is clear: the Israeli government wants to “eliminate Hamas” and considers every Palestinian a part of or at the very least in support of Hamas. Including the children.

                  It that’s not enough for you to admit that it’s a genocide, nothing will be.

                  Until then it is the intentional consequences of Hamas hiding behind children to protect themselves

                  Fun fact: the IDF uses Palestinian civilians as human shields much more often than Hamas does. Does that make any violence against Israeli civilians acceptable? Of course not!

                  Your double standards are showing.

                  The only reason Israel has the higher body count is Hamas uses mass civilian casualties to try and garner sympathy

                  No, Israel has killed over 100x as many because Israel has one of the biggest and most advanced military in the history of humanity whereas Hamas is a couple thousands of poorly armed terrorists and the real “enemy” the IDF is targeting is the Palestinian population at large.

                  and you’re supporting that strategy

                  Classic Zionist bullshit. Not being pro-genocide like you doesn’t mean that I’m pro-Hamas.

                  Whether Hamas is “trying to” make it so or not, it takes someone who’s either heartless or completely blinded by Hasbara gaslighting to see 186,000+ die, most of them civilians, and not have sympathy for the civilians of Gaza.

                  Not Israel’s fault.

                  That’s the biggest lie you’ve told yet, which is saying a shitload.

                  Negotiating with terrorists is unethical.

                  So what you’re saying is that Israel has to keep up the genocide? After all, it’s not like they have anyone else to negotiate with than Hamas.

                  Be better. Or at the very least less credulous.

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        Being hated for being religious or a certain type of religion IS VERY DIFFERENT than being hated for being genocidal assholes.

        Same way most people don’t care for a certain German vegetarian painter’s antics in that timeframe, but not the German people.

        Or not liking TV Evangelists because they’re greedy assholes that steal from the poor to buy private jets. The fairy stories they peddle are irrelevant.

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    Is this still called self defence? Surely people can see through this. No?

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    hopefully they try to open a third front with Lebanon and seal the deal on the end of their apartheid settler project 🙏

  • BigMacHole@lemm.eeBanned from community
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    REAL Jews LOVE War and Death and Bombs!

    -Evangelical Republicans who are also NOT Snowflakes!

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    For the people who criticize fellow arabs don’t care about palestinians.

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      Trump loves bibi, he loves authoritarian leaders, he would send us boots over there to please bibi