Radosław Sikorski upbraids Moscow for being “incapable of living in peace” with its neighbors following a series of incursions into NATO airspace.

Russia shouldn’t complain at the United Nations if its missiles or aircraft are shot down after entering NATO airspace, Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski warned Moscow on Monday.

Sikorski was speaking at an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council in New York. The summit was convened after three Russian military jets entered Estonian airspace for 12 minutes on Sept. 19 before being repelled by Italian F-35s representing NATO.

“I have only one request to the Russian government: If another missile or aircraft enters our space without permission, deliberately or by mistake, and gets shot down and the wreckage falls on NATO territory, please don’t come here to whine about it,” Sikorski said. “You have been warned.”

Not to be outdone, Sikorski sent a further barb Moscow’s way in New York: “We know you don’t care for international law, and you are incapable of living in peace with your neighbors. Your insane nationalism contains a lust for domination that will not cease until you realize that the age of empires is over and that your empire will not be rebuilt.”

      • F_State@midwest.social
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        Historically a fair assumption but the Chinese really want their turn to do stupid things internationally.

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        This is a given. The only question is where? Venezuela? Russia? Strait of Taiwan? West Philippines sea? Greenland? Iran? North Korea? California? There’s really no telling where they’ll take out their dick and start helicoptering it.

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      I don’t think China has that many nukes tbh.

      Don’t get me wrong, I don’t really want 600 nukes raining down on me, but it’s mostly been a US vs Russia pissing contest.

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      Why? China’s not operating an expansionist military. Who would they even start it with?

      Russia’s been feuding with its neighbors over it’s western border for… centuries.

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        Hard to say how things will go with Trump as president but Vietnam, Communist Vietnam, was well on their way to being Allies with the US over Chinese expansionist policy.

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          Pundits have been promising a Vietnamese alignment with the US since the 90s.

          We send our people over. The Vietnamese diplomatic core is always very polite and accommodating. A thousand excited Op-Eds burst from their eggs. Nothing happens.

          They’ve engaged with China (most notably over the BRI, where they trail their neighbors Laos and Cambodia substantially) in similar fashion.

          Trump’s abrasive and obnoxious new cabinet hasn’t improved anything. But the losses - in this instance - are heavily overstated.

          Pissing off Modi’s India was a much bigger deal, by comparison.

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        Well firstly Tibet would probably disagree, but perhaps Taiwan, the USA, anybody in the South China Sea, on the Indian border…

        China’s rhetoric has been very clear for decades, further expansion is going to be pursued. Whether that’s semi-peaceful like cracking down on Hong Kong, or direct invasion - it’s a question of ‘when’, not ‘if’.

        Hopefully no impending major conflicts could provide them a helpful smokescreen to make moves under, while potential adversaries are tied-up and unable to project power…

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          Well firstly Tibet would probably disagree

          You can take that up with the Tang Dynasty. Tibet’s been a part of China longer than Delaware has been a part of the United States.

          China’s rhetoric has been very clear for decades

          They’ve been screaming pacifism and globalism from the rooftops since Nixon visited.

          Whether that’s semi-peaceful like cracking down on Hong Kong, or direct invasion

          Hong Kong wasn’t peaceful. The protests erupted with the killing of two municipal police officers. It was the Chinese J6.

          And I encourage you to find out why they were protesting. A Taiwanese national had fled to Hong Kong after murdering his pregnant girlfriend. Chinese authorities were extraditing the suspect back to Taiwan, when student protests began in opposition to the extradition process.

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            Tibet’s been a part of China longer than Delaware has been a part of the United States.

            They haven’t been a part since their independence in 1913. You can take it up with the Qing Dynasty.

            They’ve been screaming pacifism and globalism from the rooftops since Nixon visited.

            They have also been screaming colonialism in Africa for a couple of decades.

            Hong Kong wasn’t peaceful.

            They said semi-peaceful in the quote.

            Also, Taiwan wasn’t a part of China during that protest. So their extradition was illegal. What happened before does not matter. China had no say in the matter, yet invaded anyway.

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              They said semi-peaceful in the quote.

              How semi-peaceful is a double homicide?

              Also, Taiwan wasn’t a part of China during that protest. So their extradition was illegal.

              Both the Taiwanese government and the Chinese government disagree. Hell, the US disagreed. They piled on with the killings nonetheless, because the protesters sucked up to Donald Trump.

              When Russian politicians do this, we call it manipulation. Strange that Hong Kong politicos don’t get the same consideration.

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          The fact that you think China is more imperialistic than Russia, US or Israel, is kinda wild.

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            China, the US, and Russia are the big three Empires. Thinking China is less imperialistic is wild

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                But about west taiwan. mocking that it supposedly always put down as the bad guy while the contrary is the case, which is what your mockery is about

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                  All I mocked was western liberals constant need to demonize China. I didn’t say shit about Taiwan

                  I’m mocking your inability to see things around you and thinking China is worse than Russia, who has been more aggressive and imperialistic to almost all of its western neighbors but sure, CHINA is the one who would start ww3.

                  Meanwhile Israel is attacking every neighbor around it and US is actively encouraging a genocide but sure CHINA is the one who would start a ww3.

                  On top of all that, US is over hear illegally attacking South American vessels on international waters in addition everything else it’s doing but sure CHINA is the one who would start a ww3.

                  You see how braindead the China hate sounds?

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                    Chines government hate is completely justified. Look what they did to hongkong. Fuck the Chinese government, as much as the Israeli, Russian, American, Iranian, British, German, French, Italian, Canadian. Etc you get the picture now? Every government does bad, some do some good too, but the totalitarian or supporting totalitarian government bit is shit, and they are all doing it, in some way shape or form

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        Reddit Brain is never more apparent than on the subject of China. Not even Iran or North Korea get as much hate, and they at least have reactionary governments deserving of serious criticism.

        Westerners simply cannot accept that they reverse mortgaged away their industrial core and need to blame their largest trading partner for all their problems.

        In fairness, the same shit happened with Japan and Korea in the 80s. And with Latin America in the 60s and 70s. As soon as we start importing large volumes of consumer goods from your country, the national media tells us to hate you.