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No, I meant precisely what I wrote. The point being that if it were $4, “underpowered” would be an absurd way to describe it, because value is a function of cost versus benefit, where benefit is subjective.
Not really. This is made to play current games, and it’s underpowered for that no matter what the price is. It could still be great value while being underpowered.
Think about it like this - if you expect to play cyberpunk, would a $1 raspberry pi that can play it at 1fps be underpowered? It’s still great value at $1, but surely you can agree that for the job at hand it is underpowered?
Yes I agree, if we can move the goalposts where ever we want, you might have a point for your own narrow view. But there will be people that believe what it delivers to be suitable for playing the games they want to play, in which case it won’t be underpowered. Which means its status as underpowered… is debatable.
It can definitely be good enough for many people - that doesn’t make it not underpowered though. You don’t seem to understand the concept, or the difference between value and underpowered.
You don’t seem to understand that “underpowered” requires context. Nor do you that what we’re having here is a debate, thus making it debatable nevertheless.
Saying because we’re debating it means it’s not debatable doesn’t work like that. That’s like saying it’s debatable that the earth is round.
Underpowered already has context - it’s 2025 and it already won’t be able to play lots of steam games, let alone “next gen” games. It’s less powerful than the consoles it’s attempting to compete with………which came out 5 years ago.
Suggesting something open to doubt isn’t debatable is just not knowing what the word means. There are dictionaries available to the public.
Suggesting the device is underpowered in all contexts is just silly. If I want a device to play Stardew Valley, Braid or some other game with very different people requirements than Cyberpunk, it may not be underpowered… to me.
I get that you’re one of those people that just can never ever accept they are maybe making an objective statement about a subjective value, but you should introspect a bit. You said it wasn’t debatable. We have debated. I doubt your position. End of story.
If you want to compare this to flat earth, fine. Rest assured, nobody will likely find and follow this thread.
FWIW, I think I probably agree with some of your sentiment. It would be better if more powerful. It is underpowered for many of the modern generation of games, etc. Not for you. No problem. Maybe others will like it. ¯\(ツ)/¯
$4? Did you mean $400?
No, I meant precisely what I wrote. The point being that if it were $4, “underpowered” would be an absurd way to describe it, because value is a function of cost versus benefit, where benefit is subjective.
Not really. This is made to play current games, and it’s underpowered for that no matter what the price is. It could still be great value while being underpowered.
Think about it like this - if you expect to play cyberpunk, would a $1 raspberry pi that can play it at 1fps be underpowered? It’s still great value at $1, but surely you can agree that for the job at hand it is underpowered?
Yes I agree, if we can move the goalposts where ever we want, you might have a point for your own narrow view. But there will be people that believe what it delivers to be suitable for playing the games they want to play, in which case it won’t be underpowered. Which means its status as underpowered… is debatable.
It can definitely be good enough for many people - that doesn’t make it not underpowered though. You don’t seem to understand the concept, or the difference between value and underpowered.
You don’t seem to understand that “underpowered” requires context. Nor do you that what we’re having here is a debate, thus making it debatable nevertheless.
Saying because we’re debating it means it’s not debatable doesn’t work like that. That’s like saying it’s debatable that the earth is round.
Underpowered already has context - it’s 2025 and it already won’t be able to play lots of steam games, let alone “next gen” games. It’s less powerful than the consoles it’s attempting to compete with………which came out 5 years ago.
It’s underpowered.
Suggesting something open to doubt isn’t debatable is just not knowing what the word means. There are dictionaries available to the public.
Suggesting the device is underpowered in all contexts is just silly. If I want a device to play Stardew Valley, Braid or some other game with very different people requirements than Cyberpunk, it may not be underpowered… to me.
I get that you’re one of those people that just can never ever accept they are maybe making an objective statement about a subjective value, but you should introspect a bit. You said it wasn’t debatable. We have debated. I doubt your position. End of story.
If you want to compare this to flat earth, fine. Rest assured, nobody will likely find and follow this thread.
FWIW, I think I probably agree with some of your sentiment. It would be better if more powerful. It is underpowered for many of the modern generation of games, etc. Not for you. No problem. Maybe others will like it. ¯\(ツ)/¯