Trump is now caught in the oldest trap of modern warfare – believing a swift, surgical military operation will yield quick, enduring political results. The Soviets did it in Afghanistan; the US in Iraq in 2003; Putin did it in Ukraine, and is still fighting. Whatever force a military fails or succeeds in applying at the start, the people it is attacking have greater commitment to defending their lands and homes.
The White House may have rushed into this, seizing the opportunity for a decapitation strike, provided by Israeli intelligence. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has very different objectives regionally, and a long US involvement against Tehran suits his desire for an Iran in rolling collapse that is no longer a threat. But the death of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on February 28 has caused as many problems as it has solved.
Trump can’t even end his own bowel movements, it just randomly starts, leaks, and stops. I am sorry, but expecting him to control anything when he can’t control his own bowels is an awfully big ask.
Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please – Niccolo Machiavelli
Orange fucker deserves what’s coming to him.
Except Trump will not bear the consequences. Soldiers, civilians and children, many of them on the Iranian side, will pay the price instead.
Soldiers fighting for the US deserve those consequences as much as Trump does. This is not a “both sides have victims” situation, all of the unjust consequences are directed at Iranians. If you’re referring to how the economic fallout of this developments will hurt people in the metropole, the rise of cost in fuel and food will impact far more people in the global south in more dire ways.
The USA, not just Trump, has to end for any amount of justice for these victims to start.
“War is not some kind of a video game.” Nor it is a WWE episode.
Bastard now gonna have a “holy war” in his hands, and already happening almost at his doorstep.
Sadly it has a pretty good chance of affecting many people who never supported him as well.
Of course he can by doing what he does best. Not caring about those he made promises to and pulling all US troops out. The israeli fourth reich will make that difficult but otherwise he will just abandon everyone.
Sleep now in the bed you shit on.
Yeah the genocidal maniac Netanyahu has zero intensions of a quick in and out. His whole strategy is terrorising the local population for extended periods of time.
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Generally what happens when you start a forever war.
It’s the only thing Republicans do other than taxcuts for the rich and fucking up the economy.
No no, they also fuck something else!
Won’t somebody think of the children
Oh, we’re thinking of the children 😉 - Republicans
Fuck them kids!
Fuck and eat them kids!
Oh buddy, you have no idea how much those kids are getting fucked. - Republicans
This dude started presidency with zero major crises, and has created at least three.
But its somehow biden and obamas fault.
that’s like guessing how many jelly beans are in a jar.
there’s at least three!
Idk what you’re talking g about, he started with multiple crises and has only made them worse: climate change, health insurance, student loans, genocide in Gaza, etc.
Biden was nearly as incompetent and evil as Trump, he just hid it better and occasionally threw us a bone.
Don’t forget the Ukraine war and the ongoing social, health and economic consequences of the pandemic.
Trump is a dumb, racist, idiotic pile of pedophile shit, but US wasn’t doing great before him either.
The
personpeople who down voted you went out to brunch the whole Biden administration.“We’ll push him left after the election!”
I don’t see down votes 🤷♀️
And all he had to do was make life less soul-crushing economically, and people would have gladly lined up behind him to support anything he wants to do, no matter how awful.
But they’re not. They’re poor and starving, so he’s losing everyone, including his own coalition.
I don’t see why he’d want it to stop. He’s been actively destroying the US for the overwhelming majority of his presidency. If he benefits the US at large, it’s major news to me. A stone rolling downhill shouldn’t be news.
He’s been actively destroying the US for the overwhelming majority of his presidency.
What makes Putin very happy despite losses in Ukraine.
His ego is his only compass, and he has tied the stock market to his ego. War and Hormuz being closed will hit the stock market. He may well want to back down when that happens, and find himself unable to.
Israel said that it worked for them, and all they want is sufficient disruption to continue their own invasions. Trump is the fool for so so many reasons.
Israel needs lebensraum.
Yada yada live long enough to become the villain.
You opened this can of worms, now lie in it.
You opened this can of worms, now lie in it.
He’s already choking in them too.
And imo, ofcourse he can end this whenever he wants to. Strategically and morally this operation makes zero sense. Not that anything he’s said or un-said, or started and or ( never) ended ever did. And no, I don’t think Iranians will come better out of this. It’s another humanitarian disaster in the making. He’s a destructive asshole. # edit Iran not Iraq ofc.
And no, I don’t think Iraqis will come better out of this.
And probably Iranians won’t, either. ;-)
Oeps… will correct. Might have something to with my déjà vu. smh
Well, refueling tankers are falling out of the skies in the Iraqi desert.
The intent was clear, I just like poking fun at typos. <3
He won’t, he’ll be long dead and we all have to live with the consequences
EVERY war ever fought was going to be over in a month with an overwhelming victory, and yet, it NEVER happens.
Except in the first US gulf war, back in the early 90s. (Kuwait was attacked by Iraq. The USA spent months preparing and then three days attacking. Then stopped when Iraq surrendered.)
Or the fall of the USSR. (Happened in about a month, no major fighting.)
Or the Russian annexation of Crimea.
It isn’t that short military exercises never yield results. It’s that wars persist until both attacker and defender believe peace is the best tactic.
The USA bombing a country for whom fighting the USA is essentially their national myth is possibly the dumbest thing that my country has ever done.
“Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please” - Niccolo Machiavelli
Trump, as an individual may not have a way out. Remember, Epstein was Mossad-trained and probably shared a lot of useful dirt with Israel.
But there is always a path to peace; and in this case it starts with the US backing off. Iran doesn’t have much capacity for war beyond protecting itself.
Exactly the same as how there’s a way for Russia to have peace in Ukraine.
The implication I haven’t seen explicitly mentioned in the article (which it should be! Bad article) is “there is no way for Trump to stop the war without losing face and thus his power”.
The reason they keep going is because otherwise they have to admit they were wrong. And probably not only wrong, but knowingly wrong, which equals malicious. And admitting that you’re malicious is bad, even with your most loyal supporters. The only way to not have that happen is to just keep going and act as if everything is fine, which is what’s happening.
The actual “path to peace” is very very simple, you just have to retreat your troops. It’s supremely unlikely Iran will attack halfway around the globe with their infrastructure.
They’ve backed on tons of things before without admitting any wrongdoing, I don’t see how this is different
The implication I haven’t seen explicitly mentioned in the article (which it should be! Bad article) is “there is no way for Trump to stop the war without losing face and thus his power
basically what I was trying to get at. But I’m not sure that it’s a matter of losing face, and rather that Netanyahu is holding some damning evidence (of the epstein files variety) over him.
as mentioned on other posts, the easiest way to deal with blackmail material is to just release it all.
I don’t know if just stopping the attack is going to work this time. Iran was significantly attacked and will want some form of retribution in order to remind the USA to never do this again.
The USA and Israel will need to pay costs for peace.
The last time someone succeeded at that, it made the USA even worse.
