When will they ever learn?
Linux Mint is so awesome.
I have an idea. Linux should start automatically everytime you boot you PC.
IDK that seems pretty invasive
Perhaps just GRUB and waiting for my input one extra time to confirm I actually want to use my PC at that time
I just have one kernel and one Distro with secure boot. So I directly use UEFI.
I honestly might switch to Linux. I know people say that a lot, but gaming has been the only thing keeping me on Windows.
But I’ve also come to realize I just don’t have that much free time to game any more. Most of my computer use is putting YouTube on in the background or web browsing. I still occasionally game, but Linux support keeps improving and even if I only pick Linux supported games… I still won’t have enough time to play them all.
Gaming works great on Linux now and often better. The only scenarios I can think of where things are majorly behind are competitive games with anti cheat that doesn’t work on Linux and anything requiring peripherals with custom software, for example SIM racing. This means that the vast majority of games work great!
Sim racing works great for me. Anything from Moza, Logitech, and even my PXN wheel “just worked” out of the box on cachyOS. Bazzite is now getting wheel support. I did have to add USB descriptors for udev rules on my simmsonn pedals, and also learn to always disable steam input and use glorious eggroll proton. JacKeTus did a fantastic job with the ffb driver and I see him on matrix ALL THE TIME helping newbies and getting stuff working.
I game often, and 100% on Linux. Unless you’re doing competitive multiplayer games with kernel level anti-cheat (read: rootkit malware), games run perfectly fine.
Good news!
Apparently DeNovo’s been hacked!
P.S. I’m shit at games… so I don’t know if this actually really matters 😝
The Denuvo workaround only runs on Windows and creates the mother of all security holes.
Yeah… I finished up the Tom’s article. Nope, I lied… I just gave up on reading it 😌
It just seems like something that could be encapsulated, no? I guess since they call it a hypervisor bypass it sits below the virtualization layer… which is essentially Greek to me. About 1 million years ago, I tried to get solid Works to run in a Windows VM on Lennox and it wouldn’t work. Best I could tell they were using device names that the virtual machine substituted for real hardware… I tried to recompile it and change the names, but I gave up because I didn’t care that much. Since I was using Solidworks pretty much all the time a dedicated machine wasn’t a big deal… as hard as most gamers game, that seems like the route I would go if it were me.
A deadhead gaming box more-or-less isolated… obviously it’s not exactly gaming on Linux, but if you’re playing a game on a windows computer from your Linux desktop… I’d argue that it’s the next best thing.
There are two exceptions to this still, STALKER Gamma doesn’t work on Linux still and SKSEx64 doesn’t work either. Also modding Baldurs gate 3 through Nexus is fucky.
Flash a distro onto a usb and boot from that to test drive it and ensure your hardware is compatible - zero risk.
I switched to Linux a year or two ago. Pretty much every game I’ve played has worked fine. (Elden ring, guild wars 2, nioh2, pillars of eternity…)
Even non-steam stuff was basically click and go with Heroic launcher
I recommend installing Ventoy on a USB stick, then putting some ISOs on there of various distros to try. Like CachyOS, Bazzite, or perhaps Kubuntu.
You can boot into them straight from the Ventoy USB stick without having to format the USB between new tests.
And if you end up liking one over the others you can install straight from the stick.
You can do it, I believe in you random internet stranger!
I’ll be that guy, use bazzite. Unless your doing advanced shit or VR it’s basically everything you need in a simple package. Shit I didn’t even have to install drivers for my… well everything.
Only annoying thing I’m finding is my Firefox audio goes wonky sometimes while using the built in audio booster (FF extensions that boost audio were even worse) but rebooting Firefox fixes it.
As long as you don’t jump on AAA title games on launch day, you’ll be fine gaming on Linux.
That, or if you are a fortnite, LoL addict… Those don’t work for reasons totally up to the devs.
You can test most Linux distros using a “live” image on a thumb drive. If you put Ventoy on a drive, you can try as many ISOs as you can fit on the drive.
Bazzite or Fedora are both really good places to start.
FYI, Bazzite may have issues with Ventoy. It is recommended to use the Fedora Media Writer. I learned this a couple months ago.
Come on in, the water is great!
I’ve been gaming on Linux for over ten years now: It has gotten to the point where the only major hurdle is kernel-level anti-cheat. Which does work in Linux, but the developer has to enable it to work in Linux, and most don’t. This is only a factor in competitive multiplayer games. I’m not into those so basically I haven’t noticed, I want to run a game, it runs.
I don’t consider myself to be an advanced PC user, but even I was able to get Arch Linux to run with some googling and tinkering as my first dive into Linux. I really think you should make the switch if you don’t have any work restrictions. I dualboot still, just in case, but I can’t remember the last time I needed to use Windows.
Like you and the others say, if you have limited time gaming or don’t play AAA on launch day, that’s just one more reason not to use Windows! Good luck!
Doesn’t “consider [themselves] to be an advanced PC user…”
Picks Arch as their first Linux distro.
Found Linus Sebastian.
I only did it to try to impress people online lol.
Everything is like a Hodge Podge of fixes just to make it work, so if anyone asks me about the inner workings of everything, I wouldn’t be able to answer like 75% of it. I’m still learning.
Nah, he would have removed his DE.
Lol that loser can’t even install popos right
Your scenario sounds like mine. Don’t game much anymore and definitely don’t play triple A crap that requires kernel.level anti cheat. Been on bazzite for about 6 mos and everything has been great. So much better than Windows.
Zorin OS is a good one if you want a nice UI transition from Windows or Mac.
I just gonna go live in the woods and take up bird watching or something.
Pop_OS has been a piece of cake to use. Switched last year, never looking back.
why stop at edge, open every single program at start up and also fill the screen with pop up ads while you are at it
and also fill the screen with pop up ads while you are at it
Like this!
Idiocracy movie was so correct about our future…
Even the president in that movie is gun crazy, and its literally Trump and his advisors.
Nah man. The president in Idiocracy listened to smart people about how to help his citizens. He cared about them and their ability go to the thunder dome for entertainment.
Thats actually true. There wasnt any military industrial complex with billions to earn from his decisions. In a way, that movie is sticking to the public school version of what our leaders are.
Back in maybe 2012-ish my friend built a new pc with some excessive amount of ram for the time. He had a small enough amount of stuff installed on it that he was able to just load the entire fs into ram, and just load anything off of it effectively instantly.
What a coincidence, I want to edge every time I open my computer.
Mint guy here, since 6 months ago, best choice I have done. If you make some research, in few time you realiese you do not need Microsoft to live in the majority of the cases.
Who’s computer is it?
Why would my browser Downloader need to start again after I download other browsers?
If my school didn’t absolutely require windows I would be fully Linux at this point.
https://github.com/winapps-org/winapps/
Winapps might be of help to you.
I do have a few other pet peewees too for Linux, despite having that on my ThinkPad.
- GDB is pretty uncomfortable to use.
- The only usable GDB GUI is a glorified webpage by none other, than Micro$lop.
- Some low-level API (sound, input, etc.) are absolutely dogshit compared to their Windows counterparts (still haven’t found anything on how to specify to ALSA if I want to open a device other that
default, and how exactly, just found a massive issue with Evdev, etc.). - Want something better than those? jUsT USe sDl, except SDL is kind of dogshit under Windows (DirectInput/XInput + DirectAudio instead of newer APIs), could not get its audio system working at all as people were instead suggesting me to use MP3 player DLLs instead of writing my own audio solutions, etc.
Honestly (and probably naïvely), what exactly is it that Windows can do that you couldn’t do on another OS? Why would a school need to force such a retarded requirement?
As someone who has been dealing with exactly this issue with my new employer’s enterprise ICT department, I have some insight to share.
When you have thousands and thousands of laptops that you need to manage, it becomes a burden for the in-house IT department, so they often farm it out to a Managed Service Provider (MSP). This is particularly common for organisations like schools and hospitals that often don’t even have an in-house IT department. The MSP will install policies and management software on the laptops to ensure the OS is up to date, the antivirus is not disabled, the VPN is configured correctly, passwords are changed regularly, etc.
Yes of course there are linux-native solutions for each of these things, but the MSP doesn’t support it, doesn’t offer that service. To keep their service prices affordable for enterprise organisations, MSPs usually hire the lowest cost technicians and support staff. These poor underpaid staff probably have never even heard of Linux. The MSP can increase their marketable value by advertising the certifications they’ve attained. The certifications are provided by Microsoft and are related to Microsoft software and systems.
If you have a small fleet of devices and an in-house IT team that has a bunch of Linux enthusiasts, and a user base who drives demand, then it is possible to support Linux. But it requires a lot of effort and dedication. My old employer did that. They had a fleet of around 5,500 devices (a mix of desktops and laptops), mostly Windows, approx 500 of them were macbooks, and about 50 were Linux. Some of these were users who needed to use software that is available only on Linux, some were like me who are simply more productive and efficient using a linux-based OS. But maintaining, administering and supporting those 50 Linux devices took around 20% of the time of the IT department. That’s massively disproportionate to the number of Linux users.
Not long after I left there, the new CTO put an end to that, they saw and easy cost saving by simply refusing to allow users to have any OS other than Windows.
This is a fairly naive take. It’s this way because the infrastructure is built this way. If it was easy for an org to entirely switch to Linux, they would.
Some senior VP obviously has his annual performance bonus tied to increasing Edge market share, and is pulling shit like this to artificially inflate the numbers.
Ditto for Bing, Copilot, etc.
Inb4 it runs in the bg putting up every website “agentically”
This is literally a “I need to meet an OKR” decision
Could someone PLEASE build an idiot proof way to permanently remove Edge from your system!?
Between this and Lemmy, I’m ready for a switch to Linux now even though I don’t know how it works.
You ask people online and get 78 different answers, then get caught up in decision paralysis and stick with windows.
I went down this rabbit hole recently: irked about a broken Windows update, I picked up on people’s advice to try Ubuntu. To say I was disappointed doesn’t really do it justice—I was mostly just surprised that it looked and behaved exactly like the Ubuntu I had used in college in 2006.
I’m really disheartened to say that after 20 years, it’s still the same sluggish, dated, janky UI that I remembered from way back and honestly it just misses basic functionality. As a random example, there’s no way to adequately control DPI settings for two monitors and messing around with screen resolution settings breaks the entire Gnome UI to the extent that you need to reboot. Some folks here on Lemmy were saying I should install KDE or something else, but I doubted it would be a miracle fix and didn’t bother going that route.
I totally understand that it’s built by volunteers and I think that’s absolutely awesome! Personally, I just don’t think it’s for your average Joe.
Went with Kubuntu as I prefer KDE, and it’s not been good on a multi monitor setup (at least with my hardware).
While I did make it further there than on some of the other distros I tried, it was still a no go.
Think I’m going to pave it and give OpenSuse another shot, just have to get some other bits sorted out.
Unfortunately, Canonical has kinda lost the plot lately - don’t take that as “all there is” that Linux offers.
That being said, KDE is a world apart from Gnome for the features it offers, it’s by fer my preferred DE, especially if you get a distro that offers plasma 6 and Wayland. I’ve been running Fedora with KDE for the last ~6 months and have been more than happy with the experience.
Seems I really struck a nerve. Again, it’s not my intention to put linux in a bad light. I’m just sharing my not-so -great-experience that returned me to Windows.
FWIW, the broken update was fixed by reinstalling Windows, which was done by the time I finished cooking dinner with literally everything left in place. I don’t really understand the hate on Windows.
Are you reading the hate on Windows?
Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar international mega-corp, and their software is meant for enterprise use as a tool to get a job done–a means to an end. All of its other uses are distantly secondary to that.
In that context, the tool becoming progressively less reliable, fast, and predictable makes it ever less fit for purpose. Sure, you used that time for something else productive, but when you need your computer for something important right now, it failing to work because its maker broke it when you weren’t looking is a lot to take. Dollars and jobs can be lost because of Microsoft’s cavalier attitude toward quality.
Contrast that with Linux, a free program made by volunteers in their spare time. Its own updates can cause problems like Windows, but they are ever less common, while the opposite is true for Windows. Furthermore, if I have important upcoming use for my PC, I can delay or ignore updates as long as I want, even forever. The owner gets to control the computer’s use, because they’re the owner, a fact Microsoft does not respect at all, and seems to be taking measures to change.
People do not like to be told what to do, nor when or how to do it. People that know how computers work and use them heavily understand how to maintain their computer, and those people are heavily represented here. They are getting their skilled PC management replaced by forced, shoddy, automation of that task and it causes them unnecessary problems, often at inopportune times.
That’s why Windows gets hate here–Microsoft keeps kicking them in the balls and they hate that.
I’ve read and understood those concerns, hence my comments pointing out the contrast in my experience. In my case, Ubuntu was unable to accomplish what I needed it for and I returned to using Windows. I know this is a controversial position, because nobody wants to be supportive of a for-profit corporation, including me.
However, I try to separate criticisms of the corporation from my day to day needs and I feel misled by the community to go down a route to try switching to something that, in my very sincere opinion, was objectively a bad choice. I understand that many may disagree with me, and perhaps my specific choices were not the right ones, but I’d have wanted to hear some discourse and balance in opinions before I had wasted my time.
I honestly cannot relate to any of the points you’ve raised with Windows. Perhaps my experience here in Europe is somehow different? In any case, I hope somebody finds this comment to be more constructive input than an upteenth comment parroting that Windows is bad and everybody should just switch to Linux.
Windows progressively worsening and Microsoft’s dubious practices are entirely independent issues from whatever is going on with Linux, though.
People interested in and well-suited for Linux use may take that route, given the situation, but even users with no inclination toward or intention to switch to Linux can and do still have legitimate grievances with the company and its software direction.
Almost everyone has to interact with Windows and Microsoft at some level throughout their lives whether they like it or not, so it is natural and constructive for them to make their opinions known. Microsoft may not respond to these criticisms in a sane or useful manner, but that is their failing, not a failing of the criticisms themselves.
I find it helpful to consider the substance of the complaint and evaluate it on its own merits, as it sounds you may have already been doing. For example, someone that is solely spouting negativity with no concrete examples of what they dislike about this company and its products is not constructive nor contributing to the conversation, but if someone states specific grievance with a software or company behavior is contributing, whether or not Microsoft takes the contribution.
If you, personally, have not encountered any problems with Windows or Microsoft that give you any pause or problems in your life, go nuts and use Windows, but knowing that alternatives exist is empowering. At the rate of decline in the quality of the Windows OS, it is not impossible that Linux could become superior in every meaningful metric without even improving. However, it is also conceivable that a user’s needs are such that those quality declines have not impacted you specifically.
I had a Windows 7 machine for like a decade without a single crash or BSD, and now, a decade later, I have multiple brand new PCs with Windows 11 installs that came on them that have lockups, crashes, and other buggy behaviors right out of the box. It is not unusable, but its stability is more reminiscent of the Windows of the 90s than an improvement on the Windows of 2010. Again, if that’s not your experience, count yourself among the lucky ones and continue to use Windows and be lucky.
I think the rabid evangelism for Linux around here may have convinced you to try it because of their fervor, rather than their reasoning. I hope you continue to have luck with Windows, but if not, feel free to switch any time! The angry nerds don’t have to impact your decision one way or the other.
You’re absolutely right about how the grievances against the company should be factored in. You’ve formulated it very well and I entirely agree with you.
To be clear, what puzzles me about this community is the fervor you mention about Linux. In my own experience, and while giving Ubuntu the benefit of the doubt out of frustration with Windows, I personally found it to be exceedingly disappointing. I don’t think it’s fair to say that I’m among the lucky ones to have few issues with Windows, because distilling my experience with Linux, I might draw sweeping generalizations about Linux as a whole.
While I, too, encourage everybody to try Linux, I would caution them to set their expectations accordingly. In my opinion and experience, Linux is tailored towards an audience of users with more time to troubleshoot problems and a willingness to accept a lower quality bar (for a lack of better words) in exchange for distancing themselves from the corporation behind it.
Don’t worry, none of us did until we gave it a go
Do it! Just choose the most normie distro you can find (probably something like Mint or Ubuntu) and free yourself!
To give some balance from my experience, I don’t recommend Ubuntu.
I’m not interested in getting into a distro war. I think we should encourage people to get into the ecosystem via whatever user-friendly means possible. Once they’re in, then they’ll be a lot more likely to try out another distro.
Honestly the popular linux distros are pretty polished / user friendly these days. You’ll run into little issues, and you need to be at least a little bit curious / tech savvy to figure them out, but it’s nothing a little googling can’t solve typically.
I’m here for any questions you may have , just pm me! I enjoy helping and I can usually break things down into easy to understand bits.
Havent touched windows at all in a year except for work. And I did try Linux back in the early 00s but I wasnt ready then (wanted to game). Its come sooooo far.
Literally the only things I can’t do: play pubg, and battlefield games. Both made by shit devs we should never support anyway. Oh, and use my Keith McMillan 12 step foot synth program on it. I have a spare junky win 10 laptop for that.
Has there been a fix for 240hz 32:9 monitors for their full refresh rate? That’s what’s stopping me.
I haven’t heard of that issue but my guess is if you had it it was related to a specific distro or am, not the Linux kernel, but I might be wrong
It’s fairly inherent to Linux from what I’m hearing and requires a lengthy reconfiguration of my monitors EDID. It’ll allow you to run at 120hz in 1440p, or 240hz in 1080 resolution. Someone created a custom edid for a different model G9 but I’m not sure it works on a G93SD
Hi friend, it’s surprisingly easy to jump into. Zorin OS is a great place to start, or bazzite
Don’t be too worried about how it works, none of it is permanent, you can always reinstall windows if things go tits-up
At this day and age it works pretty much as you expect it to work. I’d recommend something like ubuntu (or kubuntu if you want it to look and feel more like windows). Something that is stable and not on the bleeding edge and mainstream so you can easily Google for help if you need it. Apart from that I think you can use a gui for pretty much anything you might need.
Little side note: the new long term support version of Ubuntu will be released this month. I’d wait for that so you have a pretty up to date version. If you need help or advice you can DM me if you like.
Thabk you, sir. I’ll fiddle around as I ready myself. I probably need to research a bit more.
Maybe you could try the system in live mode to get a feel. You can simply make an install USB stick and boot from that and just select the live install. This will start the system directly form the USB stick without installing anything and then you can just play around with it and get a feel. Just be aware that all changes are temporary and are not saved to the stick. Most major distributions have such a functionality.
If you want something easy to install that has active updates I recommend Bazzite I’ve been using it for over 4 years now.
Just do it and ask questions later.
similar to mac and windows
I want Edge to fuck off.
#linux
If you’re stuck on Windows for work or whatever, just disable Edge’s executable in Group Policy. Let Microsoft fight Microsoft.
Will you describe more ? How to do group policy?
Group policy is edited on a local per-machine level using the Group Policy Editor, or gpedit.msc (stick it in your Run box).
Computer Configuration \ Windows Settings \ Security Settings \ Software Restriction Policies \ Additional Rules
Right click and add a new path rule. Then disallow Edge’s path. On the machine I’m sitting at it’s c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application.
Just disallow everything in there (*) and any time something tries to launch Edge in your face you’ll get this:
Look at me. I am the administrator now.
If you are on a non-Pro version of Windows and don’t have access to the Group Policy Editor, you can just use this which is considerably less hassle.
gpedit.msc
If you’re stuck on Windows for work or whatever, you probably don’t have rights to do that.
If you are a cog in the corporate machine then yes, probably. Ask your IT people. But in my case in particular (and probably lots of others) I’m saddled with Windows at work because some of the software we need to use doesn’t work in Linux. And no, it doesn’t work in Wine either before the inevitable comment appears. I try about once a year to see if the new versions have gotten compatible enough. The answer is consistently no.
Although windows will still try to open edge and will blank out your default browser just to spite you. Absolutely infuriating.
I used to replace the edge .exe with a copy of firefox .exe, then write protecting everything in that directory and disabling scheduled updates and that seemed to work (for a while at least.)
Not that I’ve seen, at least not in the IoT versions of 10 and 11 we’re currently running. Although there are some hard-coded functions wherein Windows will disrespect your default browser assignment no matter what, such as pressing F1 for help in Explorer. Since we have Edge disabled entirely on all machines here, instead when you do that nothing happens.
If they were actively trying to push people towards Linux, would their choices look any different? Perplexing.
IMO they’d be wise to take every step they can to make the OS feel like it belongs to the user, but more and more the attitude seems to be “it’s our OS, so we do what we want” which is their right, but it’s shit marketting that makes them feel more like Apple every day.
