Summary
Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.
Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”
This shift follows Trump’s peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine’s President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a “dictator.”
The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.
American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.
Amen. Also American. Cut America off. Do not stand for this stupidity. If American voters regain their minds in 2 or 4 years, we can all figure out how to move on. If not, America doesn’t deserve your grace and goodwill when it’s showing none. Ostracize us for the good of the world.
Fucking clown.
honest to god embargo us. saction us. you will do more to help our people by cutting donald trump at the knees than anything else you could do. we need help making his cult realize what they’ve done is bad and i think the only way that happens is if food gets expensive
Another American here. Yeah, we’re not Europe’s friend anymore. I hate it, but it’s true. Dear Leader has made it abundantly clear that unless you are somehow enriching him and/or his billionaire cabinet, he’s not interested in being your friend. You can hold up as many past agreements and treaties his predecessors signed and it won’t mean jack shit to him. Putin is his daddy because Putin loves oligarchs, and wants to be an oligarch sooooooo bad.
It’s going to end up that way whether EU does something now or not. He’ll just pick up his ball and leave like he’s done every time so far.
I’ve come to notice that the rest of the world is already beginning to leave us behind. The realization came with the TikTok ban. Soon as I heard that TikTok could be banned, I started looking for alternatives because I was pretty sure it was going to happen. I stumbled upon XHS by accident and about a month before everyone else. I was absolutely fucking blown away by China. It’s unlike we’ve been told in almost all respects…
I really came to realize that other countries are leaving us in their dust and it’s only a matter of time before we’re not the Apex predator anymore, and frankly I can hardly blame them.
My wife found XHS (aka RedNote) as well. I did not realize the extent of anti-China propaganda that I had inadvertently bought into, and like you, I was absolutely blown away.
Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.
The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world’s economics as well, and that’s clearly the long-term goal.
If I recall correctly, it’s about destabilizing the Dollar and making their (China and Russia’s) financial system become the world standard…
It all comes down to money. It always does.
“The US” isnt doing anything. Trump and his scumbags are destroying everything.
“The US” refers to the US government.
Nooooooo
There’s an Arabic saying that roughly translated goes something like this: Sins are wide and good deeds are narrow. The meaning is that when a large part of a group of people is sinful, just not being implicated in sin doesn’t protect you; you have to work to stop or you have no business trying to be excused from whatever punishment will come. In other words, you gotta work to stop the evil being done or you’re well within the moral blast radius. So… That’s what’s going on here; with this framework more than 99% of America is guilty.
I think the Dems are more guilty of being foolish, than of intentionally-accommodating “GEOTUS”…
Biden blocked Harris from campaigning until it was too-late, & … whatshername … Pelosi’s threat to destroy Biden’s campaign was the only thing which finally pried his hands off the opportunity…
They lived entirely-within Hopium.
They … mostly, or nearly-all, possibly-all, … aren’t going to survive the US Civil War Part2 which will erupt when it becomes enacted that there isn’t going to be any 2028 election, or sometime around then, anyways…
I don’t expect much of the population of this continent to survive the next decade…
& many have worked, hard, at preventing this…
The male-supremacists & the white-supremacists who voted against Harris, THEY are guilty, certainly…
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I mean, can’t we go back to the way that the Dems refused to see that Hillary was not popular, and how party leaders actively intervened to make sure that no one resembling an actual Dem (Bernie) got the nomination?
I think that’s really where the writing was on the wall - sabotage a popular candidate with the kind of populist support that we saw launch Trump into office, to platform someone who was probably one of the most hated women in America?
You could say that the first time Trump was elected. Not anymore.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but theyve been firing everyone in the government. The government is being dismantled.
I meant the “America isn’t doing it” part. They certainly are.
You’re missing the point.
I don’t think I am.
From this day forth he will be known as Trumputin.
When Trump does something, the party that controls House, Senate and Supreme court follows his marching orders, the richest and most influential individuals act as his lieutenants, almost half of the country agree with it, and the other half doesn’t resist or strike, then YES! THE US DOES THE THING!
The Nazis didn’t have 100% popular support in Germany. They didn’t have 50% active supporters. They had 10% party membership, even though non-members couldn’t enter a career in many fields, were harassed by authorities, and lots of people were entered into the party automatically.
Still, it was NAZI GERMANY.AND… within Nazi Germany, were real Germans who stood against Nazism, however they could…
there are a few books on that, “An Honorable Defeat” is one I’ve heard-of.
Oversimplification is anti-survival: it is just another ideology/prejudice/“religion”.
The US, the official US, is now Trump’s property, & Trump ( CURRENTLY ) is Putin’s property, & Musk’s.
I expect Trump to have a minor aneurism/stroke or something, which will remove empathy from him, completely.
( he’s fighting that personality-conversion, in my view )
But no matter how psychopathic/machiavellian/nihilist/sadistic the official US becomes, there’s good people there.
( remember that biblical thing, can’t remember who it was, perhaps Abraham,
who argued with G-D, that if there are good people there, then don’t destroy the place?
I think he was doing the wrong-selectivity: he should have been demanding that they, the good people,
be spared the destruction that G-D was about to toss on the evil…
& if it was the Sodom & Gomorrah story,
then as I’ve pointed-out before, if the angels visiting the good guy who lived there had been female angels,
& the gang-rapers trying to get in had been intending heterosexual-rape,
that would not, in any way, whatsoever, have made their intent non-evil.
It wasn’t their sexual-orientation, it was the gang-raping-angels, that made it abomination.
Anyways, back to the original message : )
Back on reddit I was permabanned from some communities, simply for posting in specific-other communities.
The Problem™ I had with that?
I’d been commenting in those other communities specifically to counter the abuse they were heaping on somebody.
So, I got judged to be one-of-the-abusers because of the venue I’d spoken in, which I’d spoken-in only to counter its abuse…
I’ve been gaslit all my life, & am fed-up with it.
Differentiate correctly, & don’t abuse the innocent, is one of the rules-of-life I live by, now.
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This just in, the known russian puppet, trump, is a russian puppet.
Kick the US out. If our democracy survives Trump, you can always readmit us when we have a president who acts in good faith. Otherwise, this shit is only going to get worse…
Unfortunately it’s likely going to take more than just electing a nice guy for USA to earn back its status as a trustworthy ally. When the country can just go rogue every four years, making threats against allies and backing out of agreements — and half of the country is so nationalist that they applaud it — you can’t really establish a basis of trust.
I’m a US citizen. Please kick us out. The more countries that take concrete action against us that actually hurt us the more likely congress and the voters are to stand up to Trump.
By allowing our politicians a seat at the table you’re opening yourself up to more harm.
Isolate us, make the voting public feel the consequences of their actions. Respond to tariffs with tariffs on red states. Sanction administration official of the inevitable human rights abuses that are coming. Call out the lies of our Government openly and with evidence.
This isn’t going to change if there are never any consequences for the people who’re doing this as well as their supporters. Revoke the visas of our oligarchs, limit their travel, stop doing business with their companies. Create incentives for educated Americans to immigrate to healthier democracies and ban our social media companies before they finish poisoning your country as well.
Agreed. We earned this. I hope we gain the world’s trust again, but it’ll most likely never be like it was…
Yeah, China’s not in even though it’s the second largest economy in the world. In the 90s it almost became G-8 to include Russia, but then Putin screwed that up.
It’s not all that different of a situation from Russia being kicked out because of Putin’s shenanigans, really.
Should try to get Brazil to leave BRICS and join the G-7 club. The US could go be in BRICS bullshit (or maybe then it’d be called the USRICS?) with the other authoritarian assholes of the world.
G6 it is then. After NATOTWO is set up
NATWO
2 NATO 2 FURIOUS
2 NATOs 1 Cup
NATOWO
NATUwU what’s this?
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I was really enjoying these Nat-alternatives and you had to ruin it.
You misspelled “enhance” <3
Maybe it is time to modernise it
😍NA😝TO😱💯💯 no cap
Maybe since it’s mostly just the northeast Atlantic now, it should be NEATO.
Canada and Greenland have most of the north covered even without the US, so the name still works.
Southwest from the European pov. SWATO.
Art class for the bourgeoisies, lab rats for the cat.
Real estate moguls, Chump Towers,
When the wind blows you can hear the windows go rat a tat rat a tat tat tat.Jimmy Hoffa in the Meadowlands, weighing down that union man.
Grab his ankles, stevedores,
Oh how those Jets do roar.Sky Pulaski Way!
But I couldn’t vote for Harris because that was a vote for genocide.
Yeah that was some really really stupid shit people were saying.
To be fair, most Americans do fall for things pretty easily when all they have to do is literally nothing
Humans in general. Tell people that “doing nothing” is the moral action and they’ll sure as fuck do nothing, because it’s the path of least resistance.
Coming from a country with ranked voting and more than 2 parties, this looks so ridiculous. It’s like the USA electoral system is designed to make people bicker amongst themselves about who is the lesser evil, while oligarchs take control.
Veritasium, on yt ( not a guy I recommend frequently ) has a vid on election-systems.
Approval-disapproval seems to be the sanest electing-system there is…
All the ranked-choice-systems logically have problems, though no-where near as bad as 1st-past-the-post idiocy.
Please, people, if you’re interested in the sanest voting-system possible, watch that video, & then organize to replace your system with the currently-best-option, which seems, from that vid, to be the approval/disapproval system.
( it makes the most-approved person win, and one can approve-of multiple different candidates, so the majority-of-voters get heard, no-matter-what, see? )
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What style of ranked voting does your country use?
In maybe the most important race of this country’s history, Harris couldn’t bring herself to denounce genocide and war crimes like a decent human being and instead chose to support a corrupt, fascist foreign nation that more closely resembles Nazi Germany than another country today.
Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.
Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.
The non-voters voted in Trump who is trying to be more fascist and corrupt than the other country you’re alluding to.
Nah, the Democrats did that.
The democrats who voted surprisingly voted for Harris so I don’t know what you’re on about.
The Democrats politicians who didn’t put Trump away and refuses to let go of their billionaire money for the sake of most important election the US is facing yet are the ones who voted Trump in. Blaming the non-voters is just playing into the oligarch’s hand.
In our system the votes get counted to figure out who won so the non-voters said they are okay with what’s happening.
So the non-voters all have future sight and can already see that Trump will win? Maybe what they actually thought was that neither side will actually help them and they are not informed enough to know that Trump will win without their help, have you ever thought about that? Seems all you actually care about is helping the oligarchy, so maybe you don’t even care to think.
Kick us out, Trump is not in the G7 to do anything but fuck it up. Being a self interested stakeholder is normal but he’s not self interested. He is clearly under Putin’s influence.
I love it when you talk dirty
Someone take that orange fuck out, please.
Biggest disappointment in the last year was that dufus missing his big fat head from only 150yds.
2". That’s all we needed. Even small hands Trump knows what two inches looks like, it’s basically nothing. So damn close.
Will nobody rid us of this turbulent golfer?
Will no one rid us of this turbulent p
riest?
You are better than that. Don’t stoop to their level or you become like them.
If you can shoot Hitler in 1937, would you think it would be a bad idea?
I’ve always wondered why so many people peacefully marched into the trains, trucks, and death camps, then I see the sheer amount of people like you who say that and remember why. Maybe it’s a personality thing, some of us who are faced with annihalation vs annihalation with a fight, we choose the latter. Most people will just take annihalation peacefully out of fear or laziness.
Your words isn’t “action for change”. These are nothing but empty internet barks. Are you saying you’re ready to commit violence? I don’t think so. Too many barkers but in reality nobody are biters. So save the empty words. Fascism is right in your face. In your neighborhood. What are you doing about it?
It’s less about being ready to commit violence, and more like willing to die or lose all my freedoms for my beliefs. Tried doing things the peaceful, in-the-system way, working charities for blind people, deaf children, as well as various environmental causes. Got pretty high up in all of them, high up enough to learn that every roadblock to getting people medical aid, more blind people-friendly infastructure, cochlear implants for children, or utilizing cutting edge alternatives to oil and plastic using fruit waste and algae, every time it’s the millionaire/billionaire investor class that can’t see any profit incentive to helping people. I show up to pitifully occupy sidewalks regularly, I even take off work and take the financial hit if there are any demonstrations in my area. In August during the pogroms in the UK, I helped protect a mosque and got bricks thrown at me, hurt like a mofo but i’d take a million more. Helped nice young college girls get medical after getting bricks hurled at the heads and faces by fascists, meanwhile the cops did nothing but stand with their backs faced to the brick throwers, watching us get pelted with bricks and fireworks. None of this makes me even close to as radicalized as the fact that humans produce 3x the calories to feed every person on the planet yet we still charge money for food, and while there’s all these problems that need resources there’s $36 TRILLION sitting in offshore tax havens (as of 2016 according to the IMF).
I’m not willing to do violence, i’m willing to do anything even risk my life to stop them. I’d rather be smiling in front of a firing squad than peacefully obeying a soldier at gunpoint as he marches me to the camps. Perhaps you’re just not that guy.
Stop typing. Start doing. More action. Less typing keyboard warrior. My engagement with you ends here.
Russia Loving Republicans. Trump is a Russian asset. Treat the US government like an enemy.
Let Trump and Putin have a G1.5. Do it. Make him look like a Russian stooge.
What do you mean “look like”?
Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6
THIS! will lower the price of eggs, I’m sure of it. Thank you, your Highness.
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Fuck this fucking orange clown. Jesus goddamn fucking Christ.
