• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    That’s a funny way to get the auto companies and unions in the three states Biden really needs to go all in on Biden.

    I’m confused. Both of them seem to be trying to lose this election.

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      Why? Better margins on gas cars, I think industrial Michigan would love this because it means they won’t be squeezed into electric car manufacturing. I get told by big 3 engineers that if it wasn’t for the subsidies they wouldn’t be electrifying their fleets. The consumer may not like it, unions may not like it, but the companies could give a damn.

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        I get told by big 3 engineers that if it wasn’t for the subsidies they wouldn’t be electrifying their fleets.

        We’ve been subsidizing ICE vehicles for the better part of the last century. Famously, Bush Jr passed enormous tax cuts for SUVs and other “light trucks” back in 2003.

        Congress recently passed a tax bill, as proposed in President Bush’s economic stimulus plan, that offers a $100,000 tax credit for business owners who purchase any vehicle weighing 6,000 pounds or more when fully loaded.

        Because these rules didn’t require a business to exist for a minimum length of time or post a profit, car dealerships would help buyers spin up small businesses on the spot in order to avail themselves of the credit. SUVs flooded the market and have been a load on the national car fleet ever since.

        Now we’re pivoting to electric vehicles in order to stay competitive globally, and (fossil fuel endorsed) business magazines have suddenly started poo-pooing the idea of vehicle subsidies as unnatural. Curious.

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      Elon will donate a few mil to his campaign, and Tesla will end up being the only company allowed to sell them.

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      This will eat 80% of Tesla profits, so he will probably ask Tesla to hurry up with the $56 billion he think he is owed.
      Tesla stock would plummet even faster than they have recently.

      Then he will try to convince Trump to use SpaceX for his Space Force, and have Trump implanted with a chip from Neuralink so he can remote control him. 😋 And then blame any problems on the Jews.

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      Well Elon and Trump supposedly talk several times a month, so it’s probably Elon telling Trump to block non American EV sales here. But there’s really no telling what they’re talking about.

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      Trump just confused things (Hailey, Pelosi, Biden, Obama etc). What he means is that he will ban European cars built in Mexico, but allow Tesla produced in China.

      I’m half serious, because that’s much more consistent with his policies in 2017-2020

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      I’m beginning to think he doesn’t have values of his own and has discovered that he can easily keep dangling simplistic talking points in front of America’s most ignorant and most vulnerable segment of simpletons and morons.

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          The probability we’re going to have Trump for a second term is so much higher than anyone realizes and it terrifies me every time some Millennial/GenZ shrugs and says “there’s no way that dude is getting in” with no intention of voting, because I have seen all this before.

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            Younger folks are just electorally apathetic. This isn’t exclusive to GenZ and Millenials, if you look back on voter records in the '60s and '70s, even the young boomers at the time also did not vote in droves. It is an age thing more than any specific generational traits.

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        I might take it one step further and say that these aren’t Trump’s ideas. These are fossil fuel industry talking points that get pumped through a rich network of right wing talk radio dorks and Brietbart style news feeds and Joe Rogan guests.

        Trump and his ilk are just the guys who can turn a talking point about “nobody is buying electric cars” into a real policy of “nobody is allowed to buy electric cars from over the border”.

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    Oooh… I can just imagine the cognitive dissonance over on twitter reaching critical mass.

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    God, now this makes it a difficult one.

    On one hand a Trump presidency is awful, on the other hand seeing Elon Musk have a mental breakdown as he can no longer sell Teslas in America is almost worth while

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    Looks like he’s going after two items:

    • EV tax credits
    • Tailpipe emissions
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    Can anyone give a legit reason as to why EVs are bad? Because all I’ve seen is “they don’t make cool BROOM BROOM noise” and “they’re bad for the environment” which is only true because of oil and gas companies bribing governments to restrict green energy infrastructure