Something that’s not super controversial, but you still really stand by it.

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    That’s a very depressing take, and I think it says more about you than anything else.

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      20 days ago

      What does it say about me? I don’t think online culture promotes compassion, although I think it’s the main value in human existence

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        20 days ago

        Phrasing matters here. There are many similar words you could have used, and I would probably agree with many of them, but you went with:

        There’s no incentive for showing compassion online, apart from virtue signaling.

        If you believe there is NO other reason to be nice, other than virtue signaling, that means that EVERY time you see someone being nice online, you assume that they are only doing it to create the illusion of being a nice person.

        This is where phrasing comes in.

        If you said many or most people are only nice for this reason, we could debate the quantity, but for the most part I’d agree with that.

        But you said there is no other incentive. I have no interest in virtue signaling, but I do like to be compassionate online. I can think of various reasons why I personally show compassion online. Since you can’t think of a single other reason, it must be because you’ve never experienced them. I must assume that any time that I see you showing compassion, it must be because you are virtue signaling, because that’s the only reason you’ve ever experienced, and you assume that everyone else is doing the same.

        Perhaps you didn’t mean exactly what you wrote, but based on the words you used, that’s what you told us.

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            20 days ago

            Not at all. I was open to the possibility that they didn’t mean that, but I wrote my response under the assumption that it was their position.

            That was essentially my way of saying, if this isn’t what you meant, let me know.

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              Seems a lot more expedient to say “if this isn’t what you meant, let me know”.

              No need for multiple paragraphs of pedantry about language on an AskLemmy post inquiring about people’s opinions.

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                  20 days ago

                  maybe you just don’t get my tone

                  Ahh, blame the other person for your poor communication. That says a lot about you.

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          20 days ago

          Excuse my phrasing, but I stand by what I wrote. Tried to keep it brief.

          Online platforms today do not offer any incentive for true positive behaviour, due to lack of community.

          By the way your response and all the downvoting kinda proves my point. Compassion shows also in how you process what you read

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            20 days ago

            I won’t say that’s wrong, but I look at it the other way around. I’m friendly on here because I want to create community. I know I recognize a lot of the same names every single day, and I’m sure they recognize mine as well. By being cordial to each other we create the community. No platform can create a community by itself, it’s up to the users to do that. Toxic people create a toxic community, nice people create a nice community.

            So, my incentive for being friendly is to set the tone for my community. Even when I disagree with people, I try to make my points, and have a conversation instead of insulting people and yelling obscenities at them. Don’t get me wrong, if you come on here with some Nazi shit, I’d give you all the hell I can muster, because I don’t want those people to feel welcome here.

            I have a feeling that your down votes are from other people who are friendly and just appreciate people being nice and don’t assume they are virtue signaling.