Gteetings! Now, to start off, I am not American and I don’t have much familiarity with playboy as a magazine or a company, the only reason I know of playboy is from movies and tv shows.
I have always thought that playboy was a chauvinistic magazine that objectified women and was owned by a not so nice man. So when I went to their site I was a little surpriced to find articles like this: The Manosphere Isn’t Even Having Fun or Losers Who Wear Smart Glasses Are Filming Women Without Consent
Can someone explain to me if I’ve been wrong about playboy or if they are actually progressive?
It’s a capitalist publication, they have no values, Playboy exists solely to make money.
It’s a bit of both. Playboy the organisation has a problematic history on how they treat women. Lots of people, men and women alike, that wrote for Playboy are progressives that see open expression of sexuality as a form of liberation.
The other that write for playboy aren’t the same people that take the photos. It has a pretty long history of platforming progressive writers and is comfortable with publishing controversial positions.
controversial positions
I see what you did there
i’m not an expert on playboy, but i have to think “feminist” would be quite a stretch… “progressive,” maybe. that said, when it comes to big adult entertainment industry publishers like playboy, it’s all consensual–no one’s getting their pictures taken against their will. men (and women) consumers of such media are there for T&A, and the talent are there for money; everybody wins. the fact is that some women enjoy showing off their bodies, and if they can get paid boatloads of money to do it, all the better.
all of that starts scaling downward the further down the ladder you go, an example being the girlsdoporn scandal where the women were coerced into making movies they were told would never be released domestically. the whole thing ended with the owners of the business landing decades in prison, as it should be.
Buzzfeed but ended worse essentially?
Porn magazines have a long history of progressive and more alternative articles mostly closer to their founding in the 60s/70s. A lot related to sex liberation and queer rights but lots of other ideas that were fit for mainstream. They would be more progressive than feminist meaning feminism is included but not the focus.
As for porn being feminist this is a controversial idea but there’s people who say it is. Mostly how it relates to women having sexuality and sexual agency about their bodies and pleasure. I would not call playboy a feminist porn studio like I would for Erika Lust which would be a better example.
There’s literature and articles about porn and sexual liberation and feminism that goes back decades.
Thanks for the links, by the way! Imagine being dissed by Playboy xD
No mate. That is to say, your initial stance (a chauvinistic magazine) was correct.
I suppose one explanation for why they don’t support smart glasses, other than it being common decency, is that home made porn detracts from traditional porn’s market-share.
what would be your go-to source for non-chauvinistic erotic art?
Erika Lust and Make Love Not Porn are my top two examples
Suicide girls?
As absurd as it sounds Playboy has an incredible track record with finding excellent writers and many of the stories published in Playboy are celebrated.
But no… there is nothing feminist about a porn mag.
there’s also nothing inherently wrong with a porn magazine from a feminist perspective. sex work is real work, and just because the publication is made for the male gaze doesn’t mean it’s problematic if the women are being paid well and treated right. if it were otherwise, then sex work itself would be problematic.
The thing about the articles is that nobody who buys the magazine reads them. They can print whatever they want, the purpose is the naked pictures.




