• @[email protected]
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    5209 days ago

    Some brilliant people invented photoshop

    It was a good product but expensive

    Some asshole coke head CEO decided to make it more expensive and worse.

    Fuck adobe.

    GIMP 3 FTW

    • fmstrat
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      37 days ago

      Big GIMP fan. That being said, Adobe needs to start promoting some of their actually good stuff, like their investment in the open C2PA spec for proving content authenticity, vs constant AI crap that is the exact opposite.

    • nocturne
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      1909 days ago

      And they bought Macromedia’s suite and destroyed it.

        • @[email protected]
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          369 days ago

          I once built a website preloader that was so large that I made a pre-preloader for it. Good times indeed.

          • Ebby
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            219 days ago

            A flash preloader was my first real tech job! As I recall, they stiffed my last paycheck and went under later.

            But it was incredibly fun and I made connections that steered my career to a new direction for the next decade.

            • @[email protected]
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              28 days ago

              Awesome, what’s keeping you busy these days? (If this is an account where it’s OK to share that on)

        • modifier
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          79 days ago

          Fireworks for me. I miss that whole suite though.

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            Now there’s a name I haven’t seen in a while and that makes me a little bit sad.

        • @[email protected]
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          209 days ago

          Fireworks had so much potential as a web design app and they threw it away.

          Illustrator and InDesign were too focused on print media and Photoshop could barely comprehend anything unless it was rasterized.

      • @[email protected]
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        108 days ago

        That’s what big tech companies do, they buy small and promissing companies they think that once can become a competitor and then… destroy it. The young startups just take the money and can retire early.

        • Rob T Firefly
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          Corel bought Paint Shop Pro and destroyed it, not Adobe, though it was an Adobe-style move to be sure.

          • @[email protected]
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            27 days ago

            I think he is old, like me and means aldus photostyler. Which was light years ahead of adobe in background separation.

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          The people editing their images in Blender are the same people who edit their videos in Blender lol.

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            99 days ago

            Has it gotten better with editing? I tried a couple of years ago and just couldn’t. It’s amazing for the 3d software. If they could make it easier to measure things, I’d use it for CAD too.

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              59 days ago

              I believe i recall there being an update specifically to the video editor within the past year or two, but don’t quote me on that. They have done updates to post processing, the timeline functionality, grease pencil, and i believe some other things that would apply to video editing, so i imagine it would be easier to work with. There are cad and measuring add-ons as well, i believe some free within blender itself.

              • @[email protected]
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                49 days ago

                I bought Davinci, so I’m happy with that, but I’ll still check out the Blender version. I can’t really complain about it, it does so much and is free.

                As far as CAD goes, they aren’t really usable to be fast in CAD. It’s super cumbersome. You should be able to move things 1" to the right or left, put things at certain heights and move around the space in an easy way. I haven’t found anything that can do that for imperial. Also, the tools for making dimensions is really bad and I don’t think there’s a way to make a blueprint unless you come up with something yourself. That being said, it’s free and it’s not their focus. They concentrate on the 3D portions.

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                  59 days ago

                  I’ve started using FreeCAD for CAD work, I’ve used Fusion 360 for 5 years before trying FreeCAD (again, I tried it a few years ago) and it works pretty good.

                  It’s different and it’s taking some getting used to but it’s working out quite nicely so far.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    39 days ago

                    I’ll give that a try again. I tried that about 3 or 4 years ago and couldn’t make that switch, but I can’t remember why, lol.

                • @[email protected]
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                  39 days ago

                  If the units are set to inches for length. You can just type G (grab), X (or Y or Z), and 1 to move an inch in any direction. I think it used to be worse.

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                    39 days ago

                    Unless they’ve changed it in the last 2 releases, it’s still that you have to decimal out the inches. So 1" would be .0833333. I don’t have time for that shit. It’s so easy in any other cad program from decades ago. Like I said, it’s obviously not their focus and that’s fine. It’s just on my wish list.

            • @[email protected]
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              59 days ago

              Maybe I’m doing too much engineering - I found Open SCAD to be way easier than Blender for making stuff, and that’s saying something because Open SCAD is quite a pain.

              • @[email protected]
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                29 days ago

                I can see why for engineering, it allows you to be super precise. I’m not sure the people who developed the CAD side of Blender have ever used it for anything precise or to build details and drawings of any kind. They just seem clueless, there is no other way to put it. AutoSketch used to be so great, maybe the paid version is now. That was different than AutoCAD and Revit, but I loved it.

                • @[email protected]
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                  59 days ago

                  I’ve always seen Blender as a 3D art tool but never as a precise 3D engineering tool. Didn’t even know Blender had CAD features

                  • @[email protected]
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                    39 days ago

                    Me too. As I said before, it’s just on my wish list. I’ve learned Blender pretty darn well. If it could do CAD in a decent way, it would be perfect. There are too many UI’s in my head as it is.

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                18 days ago

                I hate the syntax in OpenSCAD. It LOOKS like something object-oriented but it is procedural, causing oh so many footguns, if one expects it to act like OOP.

                • @[email protected]
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                  27 days ago

                  I’m a mostly procedural thinker, even though I program in OOP all day long. OpenSCAD works a lot like the rest of my code: write it, try it, look at the results, curse, revise it, try it, look at the results, curse differently… you get there eventually. I do highly suggest not coding a masterpiece in OpenSCAD without visualizing the components first.

    • @[email protected]
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      459 days ago

      I (distantly) knew an indie software developer who was putting up a pretty good Photoshop alternative in 1996: ONE GUY alone in his bedroom was making a decent living selling a Photoshop alternative that he wrote himself. And he wasn’t exactly a super-wunderkind coder, just a guy who knew the photo manipulation space well enough to get enough customers to float selling his software for a few years - in direct competition with Photoshop.

      Adobe isn’t selling magic dust ground from precious gemstones by thousands of artisans. They had a decent product that they marketed the hell out of and eventually got overly greedy.

      GIMP, Krita, and many others are right up there if you haven’t been sucked into the Adobe addiction vortex.

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          27 days ago

          Yeah, I got my son a draw-on monitor explicitly for use with Krita. It’s a normal PC too, but it makes Krita much easier to use well.

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        38 days ago

        I use GIMP, but you can’t compare it to Photoshop. GIMP has a horrible GUI and it has very strange design choices.

        The Affinity suite is comparable to Photoshop, but it’s a paid product.

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        Affinity Photo for me!

        I’d prefer FOSS but…GIMP ain’t it.

        Have used Photopea in* a bind in the past, it’s also pretty good especially the clone GUI.

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          119 days ago

          I moved to Affinity early this year, and it has been amazing!! I was expecting a long adjustment period after decades with Photoshop, but it’s so similar that I picked it up super quick!

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            109 days ago

            Another vote for Affinity. Excellent Adobe alternatives 1-time reasonable price. Such a breath of fresh air after so many subs.

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              Just an FYI that you might want to get some practice in with some Affinity alternatives, because they’ve been purchased by Canva, and so enshittification might set in any time.

          • Lit
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            27 days ago

            I have been using it for the past 5+ years. It is good enough, and its perpetual license.

      • ThePowerOfGeek
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        109 days ago

        Krita is my graphics app of choice these days. But there are many alternatives that are great (like Gimp and Photopea).

        • @[email protected]
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          49 days ago

          Krita is my graphics app of choice these days.

          So much of Krita is great and then there is the text tool which is still a heap of trash.

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              29 days ago

              New update coming for that soon!

              I’m fully aware of the feature that has been promised for years and is supposed to land in 5.3. I’m still using Krita, just not solely.

    • Seth Taylor
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      259 days ago

      I still remember when they bought Macromedia Flash and all my animator friends and I simply couldn’t stand Adobe Flash CS3 or whatever it was called. It used more resources, crashed more often and didn’t exactly bring anything revolutionary to the table in terms of new functions.

    • @[email protected]
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      59 days ago

      Some brilliant people invented photoshop

      So the real question is whether Photoshop might ever have become successful, if Adobe hadn’t bought it.

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      28 days ago

      Ok, so I’ve tried gimp in the past, but had a hard time with it. Honestly, my Photoshop skills are mostly self taught (and not all that impressive), but that’s the interface I know. How similar to Photoshop can one make the interface in gimp these days? Because that’s probably my biggest hurdle.

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        88 days ago

        Gimp is a little steeper learning curve but if you already know photoshop it’s not that bad.

        The tricky thing is knowing what to do when you get stuck. Luckily they wrote a manual that assumes you’re only reading the manual because you got stuck and you’re so frustrated you’re actually reading the manual.

        Gimp3 just launched and it’s really nice.

        And free.