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Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.
“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.
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When you accept that others rights can be taken away, you must also accept that your own rights can be taken away.
If you accept that groups can be excluded from society, you must also accept that your group may one day be excluded.
If you accept that might makes right, you must accept that one mightier than yourself will one day come along.
If you live by the sword, you will likely die by the sword.
Idk how many times this has to happen throughout history before people act learn from it.
They came for the Lefties, and the Mormons did nothing.
They came for the Transgenders, and the Mormons did nothing.
They came for the immigrants, and the Mormons did nothing.
Now they’re coming for the Mormons, and…yeah, we could help, but fuck those treasonous pedophile weirdos.
Dum dum dum dum 🎶
How it is with these guys. Its just a matter of time before they get around to screwing you.
LDS is Christian the way a pineapple is an apple. Petey can go fuck himself though.
One just has golden plates and the other doesn’t. Pretty much the same thing.
It really isn’t. The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations. Their propaganda, investment and political arms make them the biggest existential threat to North American democracy and culture as a centralized religious organization.
Not to mention the basis of the faith is that Jesus came to America and your skin color determines if your ancestors were sinners. That’s cuckoo bananas even by christian standards.
This could impact a lot of Trump votes if not corrected too. I don’t think even he’s so dumb to alienate such a large voter base.
Yes well I was really just trying to be funny (poorly) I must admit, good points I’m glad you stated though.
The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations.
Wait til you hear about how greedy the Catholic Church was before & during the Reformation. New denomination, same religion. This is just how faiths inevitably evolve.
Also Mormonism—though I hate using this aphorism because it’s not even true—is as American as apple pie, there’s really no threat to be spoken of here in the usual sense of the word. It’s existed for more or less 200 years now, subsisting along with every other facet of its surrounding culture. Mormonism is American society, it wouldn’t have become so widespread without it.
mahhh aside from perhaps the Quakers, the rest if 'em. can all go fuck themselves.
That’s funny, I no longer count Israel worshiping evangelical Zionists as Christian.
I live by the location that Mormons believe Jesus will be when he returns. They built a church with a steeple that looks like a massive space ship on that location.
But also fuck Pete Hegseth. They have a right to their beliefs as long as it’s not harming anyone else.
If it’s the one I’m thinking of, that particular building is owned by the Community of Christ (formerly the “RLDS” church) which split from the “official” Mormon organization shortly after Smith was killed. It’s a wild design. I remember learning about it as a kid and being told that it was a “perversion” or whatever.
Either way, it’s all culty bullshit.
Yes! That’s the one! My bf lives by that one and I live by the other monument they built. This one is right in downtown Independence MO, which is also a very low-income area with a lot of homeless people. It’s jarring to see that sticking up amongst it all.
For those of you who don’t know, there are a lot of Mormons in the KC area because some of them believe the Garden of Eden is a short drive north of KC and that Jesus will return to Independence, MO.
I see more Mormon churches in the KC metro than any other religion, although, I don’t know any practicing Mormons myself.
The purity shit they spend massive amounts of money pushing on social media alone is harmful as fuck.
LDS are Smithians
Brighamites, technically. Because the main organization decided to follow Brigham Young after Joseph Smith was killed. The Community of Christ is the one that broke off and reorganized themselves under one of Smith’s kids. The whole history of Mormonism is insane, but morbidly fascinating.
Ha trump administration showing favoritism. That not new btw.
It was the fuck aroundest of times.
It was the find outest of times.
yeah we’re like three quarters of the way through that Niemöller poem now
Of course, the Kluxer bastard wants “true Christians” and not “pretenders”, and I bet he is also doing this to send a message. Only a matter of time he also gets started on non-Christian religions in the US military, including Wiccan.
I wish Mormons would be outraged over something that mattered, like the sexual abuse in their church, or the fact their church supporting mormon thieves and scammers across the country, who have stolen over a billion dollars from their fellow Americans.
While sexual abuse does occur in the church, the trick of having the church operate as it does is to catch predators. Similar to how Donald Trump is the orange cop-in-chief, because God and the FBI knows who offered him what.
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Forgive and move on like a good Mormon.
Dum-dum-dumdum-dum
I’m honestly more surprised that JWs and Christian Scientists are listed under “Christian” than that Mormons aren’t. All of those are considered cults, rather than legitimate denominations, by mainstream Christianity (Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant).
I mean they are all cults, just ones society finds acceptable for some reason.
Wasn’t it the Mormons whose founder got some glasses from an angel, which allowed him to read the bible? Well, that is what I call a fairytale.
And what do you call the Bible then?
If you read the Bible and take everything literally, I cannot help you. I assume, however, that you are well aware that certain parts were intended for different audiences or types of believers. Some passages convey a different message than, for example, the Quran or the Torah. As for the meaning of secularisation and the distinction between „religia“ and „ecclesia“, I’ll leave it to you to look it up on Wikipedia or another reliable source.
If I recall the original definition of the modern cult vs religion division is just what ever the British crown recognized as legitimate. Lol
Pepsi is a cult. America is a cult. A cult is just a type of network structure around a centralized cultural mission.
Mormonism is definitely a cult, zero bones about it. But the emotional attachment–and the subsequent damage–is very very real.
I hate to agree with him, but isn’t what he said true? Isn’t Mormonism more like Islam where they both have a new prophet after Jesus but worship the same Allah? They’re both Abrahamic religions, but neither is Christianity.
Ironically when it comes to the nature of God Muslims and Mormons couldn’t be farther apart. Like Christians, Mormons believe in the divinity of Christ, i.e. that he is the Son of God (or “Heavenly Father”), but they reject the Trinity, i.e. that God is one substance in three parts*. Mormons instead believe that God is three separate beings of one purpose and will. Muslims are more like Jews in that they don’t think he was the Son of God, but where Muslims think he was a prophet and the Messiah, Jews are… indifferent? Maybe they think he was some smart guy, or maybe he didn’t exist. Nice story, who cares basically. Muslims reject the Divinity of Christ because they reject the Trinity because the oneness of God is a core of their beliefs.
*the Trinity gets complicated when you start asking different denominations or even different congregations about it. it is a divine mystery, you’re not actually supposed to get it. i didn’t make that up, that is what a lot of christian doctrine actually teaches. but they still argue about it. religion is wild
**i’m also not a theologian so notes will be accepted
I don’t know Islam enough to speak about it when it comes to this type of distinction. LDS however, worship Jesus, and God the Father. The modern prophets are there only to clarify doctrine, perform ordinances, and help direct the members toward Jesus. They don’t supercede Jesus.
This whole thing really just depends on the definition you come up with. You could write a definition that Catholicism is the only Christian religion, because it is the direct decendant of the church Christ built. All other worshipers are offshoots. In practice, that isn’t a great definition, because Catholicism isn’t close to a majority of people that worship Christ. So you need to expand to include those offshoot religions. You don’t want to go too far though, otherwise you get people making their own Christian church, but doing whatever they want in the name of it.
So it is all pedantic talk. I think LDS should be included in Christianity, but I can understand why someone would argue against it, in the name of trying to keep to the core Christian religions.
I thought in Christianity everyone is Christian in the Lord’s eyes?
That’s only true in a small number of Christian denominations.
Seriously go look up the abrahamic faith family tree. There’s a truely staggering number of splits. And the belief interpretation of the scriptures and how outsiders view each wild differ to the point that if you didn’t know better you wouldn’t even realize 70% of them are related beyond Jesus being involved.
