They were all just stuck in traffic. I’m sure if they get a do-over they’ll remember to leave early this time.
Its genuinely pathetic that neoliberal dems think this was a smart strategy. How many people need to die for Pelosi’s pride?
Thank you AIPAC Shakur!
Just a reminder AIPAC Shakur sounds good but is rather racist and disrespects the Shakur name dramatically.
It isn’t racist, but it is stupid and disrespectful.
It’s pretty racist, given the only connection to Tupac would be his race. Absolutely not a single other detail is the same between the two. Jeffries doesn’t even claim to have been poor or from ‘the hood’ or anything that might make a plausible excuse to use the nickname.
It’s pretty racist, given the only connection to Tupac would be his race. Absolutely not a single other detail is the same between the two.
AI(PAC) Tu(pac).
Race is certainly a secondary factor, however the term was coined by a black man. If you think a black man calling another black man a nickname based on a third black man is racist then you should think calling Stephen Miller ‘Pee-wee Himmler’ is equally racist.
I don’t, personally.
Yeah, black people can be racist to other black people, have you heard of Clarence Thomas or ever heard Jeffries speak at any point?
It doesn’t stop anything.
I see we’ve dodged my other points, got it.
What are you talking about? The connection is AIPAC sounds like Tupac. It’s literally nothing to do with race.
Cool, so I can call Chuck Shumer APAIC Shakur?
Call anyone anything, no one cares. Just stop your tedious finger wagging.
It’s a stupid thing to say regardless, but I doubt anyone would call you out saying Chuck isn’t the correct race, so you can’t say that.
This is a silly amount of circular logic to defend a racist nickname.
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I use to see this stuff and feel powerless. No, Im not powerless, this is people who I unfortunately have sided with exerting their power.
The lesser evil party doesnt want to expel the evil they capitalize on.
Ive been bought. I opted for mild constant suffering in exchange for protection from the elements and distractions to get me through the horror of living.
Id be brave but they dont serve bravery at McDonald’s.
Id be cunning but cunning is only included with the premium service.
I guess all thats left is to leave a bad review.
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Looking for clarification on something:
If this vote happened and Hegseth was impeached, couldn’t Trump and the current GOP Senate just back-fill his cabinet position before January with no opposition from Democrats?
In other words, wouldn’t it be better to impeach after Democrats have control of Senate where there is a 51 confirmation requirement?
A) Now that the articles have been introduced they can be brought up for a demand vote by the Speaker at any time, including in January when the speaker chances.
B) This is about creating and destroying political capital, as the other user said. Those 11 dems now explicitly endorse Pete Hegseth and the Trump regime, including all of its crimes. It’s on record now, and that record will be used by both republicans and dems against them when they’re up for reelection. It’s a vote to show your hand and your donors.
For (B) I still don’t quite get it because, for example, Pelosi is a lame duck retiring anyway come January. What did she have to lose by voting Yes for posterity, especially when substantively it would’ve led to nothing happened given the Senate vote threshold?
Pretty obvious how badly this looks – I mean Hegseth is pretty universally unliked.
What did she have to lose? Her fortune, her family’s assets, any and all legitimacy she has. While you say she’s a lame duck, she’s still ‘respected’ by representatives in power. By making this stance clear, it’s another thing that can be used against representatives that think Pelosi and her choices have any positive impact on democrats or society - aka, it’s a cudgel people can hit AOC on the head with the next time she tries to defer to centrist dems on something.
Pelosi might be gone, but her legacy of ‘raising’ junior reps is not, and those junior reps, for ‘some’ reason keep doing her bidding even when it goes against the mandate they were elected for.
It would be nice if Pelosi just went the fuck away. She has done irreparable harm and aided facism at every turn.
It doesn’t matter it takes 67 senate votes to convict, he can’t be removed either now or later. The point of the vote was whether Massie gets to make everybody in the House go on record voting whether they support illegally starting two wars, murdering 200 elementary school children, and massacring Caribbean fishermen under no quarter. Which is why a lot of these Democrats sat it out, they were the ones cheering Hegseth on when he did all that shit and don’t want to have to stand by it now that they’ve noticed the peasants are unhappy.
If i miss a shift, i get fired. Anyone who doesn’t show up to work on time doesn’t represent voters.
It was worse the 11 were not there due to attending an event hosted by AIPAC! Fuckers are traitor to our country.
ughhhh
One of them was due to medical issues, which is a whole other problem.
I had a doctors note and I still got fired the first time I called out
I’d be generous and give them 3 non-doctor’s note call out days per term. Anymore than that then their seat and pay goes to one of their staff members for the rest of the term. They can come back after getting reelected so the voter’s are still sovereign if they want them.
Call outs by the way. If they don’t call in with a good excuse before hand then that would be instant replacement for the rest of the term. Same for if they couldn’t produce a doctor’s note.
Yet another complete failure by Democratic leadership.
The vote was rushed. There was a police led motorcade that blocked numerous Reps from getting to be present and vote. Pelosi was ironically honoring vets, in CA, so that’s a fail. And Jeffries could have ‘whipped up’ the vote, so that’s a fail. And anyone could have expected some shenanigans from the gopers, so that’s a fail.
Yet another complete failure by Democratic leadership.
It’s crazy how many bots Israel gives Hakeem Jeffries, the genocide enthusiast. It’s totally understandable when you remember he’s their best paid candidate as well.
Wait, are you saying, “Yet another complete failure by Democractic leadership.”?
Its a small silver lining, but at least they tried this time. Usually they assume they’ve already lost and don’t even make an attempt.
Meanwhile, the GOP is happy to spend years running headlong into failed attempt after failed attempt until something finally lands.
Its a small silver lining, but at least they tried this time.
no, they did not
Democrats didn’t even try in the first place, a Republican brought the articles.
Yup, a Republican that tossed Democrats the ball and our illustrious captain dropped it like it’s hot.
Yeah, but Massey is just trying to wash the Trump stank off before his term ends in January. You also have to realize that Hegseth would have been deemed innocent when the Senate tried him. This outcome is actually better, because Keghead can now be impeached and tried in January when the Dems have the majority in both houses of Congress and will need fewer Repugnican defectors to actually get a guilty verdict in the Senate. Politics is a nasty game, but missing this vote saves the current Dems a little bit of political capital to spend once the new Congress is sworn in in January…if Stephen Miller doesn’t violate the Constitution and stop them from being seated. That’s very possibly the administration’s plan right now. Don’t get me wrong, Jeffries and Schumer need to go, if enough Dems have the balls to stand up to the party leadership.
oh shit thats hilarious
The GOP told you when the vote was ahead of time. Doesn’t matter if it was rushed, leadership’s job is to respond to it and make sure that on important votes, your party is there to counter the fuckery.
This leadership that wants to continue being a leader didn’t step up. But they sure did make sure they stepped up to gut the Clean Waters Act though so there’s that.
The 11 took AIPAC money.
This might actually be a bigger screw up on the GOP side. If they impeached now then the GOP controls the narrative and the process. It could be just as big of a sham as Trump’s impeachments were. So now it’s going to come back up next session, and even if they don’t have the votes to oust him, the Democrats will be able to put all of his crimes into public record.
You know, people downvoted a heliocentic system, too…doesn’t change the facts.
Sounds like leadership got what it wanted. How’s that a failure?
I don’t think even the rotating villains of capital want Hegseth involved in the military (and its not like he would be removed if this had passed). This seems more an issue of broader failures of democrats even when aligned.
Make the MAGAts vote to protect this asshole
Give them nothing for free
Imma keep it real with you Jeffries, I’m going to extend the exact same forgiveness I get from my boss when I miss big work responsibilities because I had trouble with the bus: exactly none. Be at work on time, and then police motorcades won’t be a problem.
Besides; we pay these motherfuckers full time to be at work maybe 5 full months out of the year?? Make it make sense.
I’m up at 5:30 every day, I don’t start work 'till 8. By the time I get to sit down after work, it’s 8 pm at least. There is absolutely no excuse for missing a vote. You leave yourself plenty of time to get there, then you don’t have to worry about being late.
My employer doesn’t allow me to clock in early so I’m never early.
This. If I have a downtime, I have to be there on time. Full stop.
Personally, I’m skeptical that this was by accident.
The reps who missed this seem to have common political alignments.
My guess is that they would rather wait until after the new congress gets sworn in to Impeach Hegseth because the extra time is good for their allies in the war industry, and because they have some dumb political game theory about how it helps them if it happens on their preferred schedule.
I don’t think that 11 similarly-minded reps somehow had an oopsie-daisy on the day of the big vote.
There are only two explanations for what happened:
- Jeffries is too incompetent of a leader to get asses in seats to vote for important shit when the time comes.
- Jeffries is a competent, traitorous leader to have arranged for there to be excuses to have not had the votes.
In both cases, he should be disqualified for even attempting to lead the party. He’s either too much of a little pissboy bitch or he’s a purchased stooge begging to be the appetizer of our meal of eating the rich.
Neoliberals are conservatives. Always have been.
Conservative and Facist, the two political parties in America.
Chris Van Hollen is calling his colleagues: https://www.ms.now/news/van-hollen-schumer-senate-majority-leader-democrats
Let’s get the new leadership we so desperately need!
7 calls to help replace Schumer and Jeffries:
- Call Ayanna Pressley and encourage her to run for speaker of the house. She would be a great leader in addition to being the first black speaker of the house - which eliminates Hakeem Jeffries false claim only racists oppose him.
https://pressley.house.gov/contact-us/
- Call Senator Chris Van Hollen and encourage him to run for Senate leader to oust Chuck Schumer.
https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/ Numbers at the bottom of the page
- Call your representative and urge them to support Ayanna Pressley for speaker of the house.
4 & 5) Call your senators and demand they support Chris Van Hollen and oppose Chuck Schumer for Senate leader.
http://5calls.org/issue/house-senate-leadership/
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Call Chuck Schumer and demand he step down as Senate leader: (202) 224-6542
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Call Hakeem Jeffries and demand he step down as house leader: (202) 225-5936
Repeat every day until we have new leaders.
Further proof Jeffries is incapable of true leadership.
No one has ever accused him of leadership, but at least he can’t whip votes to backstab everyone
I don’t like or respect Jefferies, but he’s a compromise I could live with
Schumer on the other hand…
I don’t like or respect Jefferies, but he’s a compromise I could live with
Why should any of us “live with” a compromise when we dont have to?
Because we literally do have to. It’s entirely up to the Congress members at this point, and they’ve decided this is the best path forward
I’ve done nothing but lay out what seem to be the reasoning and benefits of this choice for progressives, but ultimately no one is running against Jefferies. We don’t have a vote in this, it’s not a very good system, but it’s the one we have right now
I mean, you could write to your congresspeople, but I think getting scheumer out is way more important. There’s benefits to keeping Jefferies, but they do not apply to Schumer… He’s proven willing and able to ratfuck us in a matter of hours
Compromise means we get something and weegxve something. What are we saying we get? Plum committee assignments in return for no progressive bill ever passing the House?
The compromise is that Jefferies is a wet noodle. He can be incentivized and coerced into giving progressives a fair shot, for all his whining about “socialism” he’s met with a lot of progressives, and they came out of those meetings convinced he can be worked with
The public overwhelmingly supports progressives, we have a very good chance of building a large coalition in the party this Congress, and building on that moving forward to really get things accomplished. But right the progressive wing is a bunch of junior members and outcasts, it will take time to develop relationships and learn how to pull the levers
The other options are either someone more capable of actually whipping votes, which would not be good for us
Or a card carrying progressive, but we don’t have anyone established enough to whip votes effectively for that. Assuming we could even win a vote. They’d also be in the hot seat - if we don’t get things done, it’ll kill the political momentum… People always blame the president, then the majority leaders
When things move slowly (and I’m sure they will), in two years we can blame our failures on weak leadership and claim our wins for progressives
Jefferies doesn’t have the leadership skills to rat fuck us on his own. He’ll go where the wind blows, he responds to public pressure and has a political career ahead of him to worry about. He’s not an ally but he is a weak enemy
Shumer is different. He has been proven able and willing to rat fuck the party after one phone call, in a matter of hours no less. His political career is also basically over already, he’s going to cash out if we leave him in place
Politics is a bullshit game, a weak enemy is very probably better than a weak ally in this case
Cool, more democrats-in-disarray being played up by the “liberal media”.
Headlines like this seem to be missing some rather important details.
“Missed”
They are on a rotation. They have already figured out who to sacrifice based on if they’re up for reelection or not, and whomever they chose because they can afford to take the heat.
It’s all a game. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. They pay by rules you don’t even know exist. Decisions are made behind closed doors, and we are told there was a vote or whatever. The truth is not out there, it’s locked behind a FOIA request that gets denied or redacted beyond recognition.
Jeffries is in charge right now until January, you think he doesn’t have the votes already in place? He will try to stay in power at any cost.
They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ‘cause they own this fuckin’ place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. — George Carlin
Wasn’t this some sort of play by Republicans to try and sneak a vote in, which is why a bunch of people couldn’t make it? Correct me if im wrong.
Seems like something designed to make progressives look bad for asking for representation in government. Isreal must be shitting their pants about losing control of the wheel.
No, not really. This vote was scheduled a couple days in advance, so everyone had time to figure out how to get there on time. One of the Democrats that missed the vote blamed a traffic jam, but a reporter saw him on the capital steps several minutes before the deadline. He could have easily just walked inside and cast his vote before the deadline, but just… didn’t.
