Honestly I can’t understand why the “hush money” is all the rage. THIS is the crime that would put ANY other American into a supermax. This isn’t justice.
The “hush money” framing is such a cutesy, bullshit spin to neuter the actual repeated and unapologetic fraud here. Basic human and business ethics concerns to side for a moment, It’s purely fraud against the American people without remorse and it’s actual election interference.
You wouldn’t say that a serial killer that stabs and kills their victims is on trial for “night night pokes”. How was this allowed to get casually accepted like this without challenge from society?
“My neighbor in Tel Aviv is in jail for murder, or, as we call it, enhanced tickling.”
-Colonel Erran Morrad (Sacha baron cohen)
Well, some people enjoy my night night pokes. Your momma, for instance. …sorry
Can you expand more on the election interference part?
Totally understand inciting an insurrection to be interference, but using campaign funds to manage public relations problems seems a legitimate use.
So the falsifying is the illegal bit.
The rest of the tweet is moralising.
Others here have addressed your assertions
Others here have rejected those assertions.
I have no idea if that statement is true. I just wanted to illustrate how unhelpful your comment was.
Your tactics here are extremely transparent.
Yeah, if he was upfront about things then there would be no criminal case
However saying he set up shell companies to carry out falsification isn’t moralising
Writing “disgusting transactions” is moralistic.
Doesn’t help to win over Republicans.
I think you misread. He said “disguising”, which only means intent to keep hidden by masking the truth.
using campaign funds to manage public relations problems seems a legitimate use
It is.
What he did was try to hide payments made to benefit his campaign. Would you consider illegally financing a campaign to be election interference?
Not just the financing, but hiding the Stormy Daniels story during the election. They were using the National Enquirer (yes, I know) to promote Trump, make up stories to bring down his opponents, and hide the Stormy Daniels story (which was needed when the “grab them by the pussy” video leak caused chaos and arguably almost sunk the campaign). THAT’S where the election interference came into play.
They were using the National Enquirer (yes, I know) to promote Trump, make up stories to bring down his opponents, and hide the Stormy Daniels story (which was needed when the “grab them by the pussy” video leak caused chaos and arguably almost sunk the campaign)
Isn’t this part a normal election strategy in the US? And not illegal itself?
Honestly, I’m not sure how exactly the law is written. I believe that was a factor out of several that raised the misdemeanor of falsification into a felony (by doing so to conceal a crime). The judge’s instructions to the jury was that they needed to be unanimous that a crime was being concealed, but they didn’t have to agree on which one(s). Unless some members of the jury go to the media (for their sake, I sure hope they don’t) and that gets brought up, we’ll probably never know which way that wind was blowing.
Thanks.
In the future I’m sure politicians on all sides will be paying people to keep certain facts quiet. I was just trying to confirm what is legal and what is illegal.
The business records fraud case (“hush money” is misleading what it was) is just the first case that nothing blocked it from proceeding.
Documents case is blocked by Canon, J6 is blocked by SCOTUS, I guess the Georgia case could proceed too, but was maybe more complicated than this one.
Georgia is blocked due to complaints of impropriety between the DA and her special council.
The claim is that the DA selected the special prosecutor because of their personal relationship and het ability to use this relationship to influence the special council.
And that they used money paid to special council for personal stuff. It is bullshit, but afaik they where ordered to pick one. If the DA stays the special council needs to be replaced or vice versa.
The DA was just reelected… and swapping special council means the new one needs to get up to apeed. Causing more delays. In my opinion, Georgia is also not happening before November regrettably (short of a hilarious twist of faith).
Because the hush money case is the only case that is likely to happen before the election.
The J6 case in DC got screwed by the Supreme Court refusing to take the appeal before waiting for the DC appeals court to rule. It was obvious that the Supreme Court was going to step in and rule, so Jack Smith requested them to just take the case and they declined saying they wanted to let the DC court decide first. Then they took the appeal a month or so later anyways. Now they have held hearings, but even if they rule against Trump, all they have to do is delay until late July and they know that the justice department won’t be able to resume the trial in time.
In the documents case, which is the most fundamentally simple case, Eileen Cannon has ratfucked the whole process to the point that it’s unlikely to start before July. It should be an open and shut case, but she’s entertaining all sorts of crazy legal theories and giving them months to elaborate on them.
They need to delay until at least November, which is when they know what the Constitutional Originalism says about the case.
Cannon
Out of interest, isn’t there a way in the US justice system to take a clearly not impartial judge off a case? I think it’s proven beyond any reasonable doubt that her tactics are politically motivated and unnatural / untypical compared to the usual procedure…
But as you just read, this judge has been predictably sabotaging this case.
“hush money”
It was about the falsification of documents. Hush money is legal.
I’m starting to think it’s strategic on jack smiths part. He’s got to let her dig a hole so deep and make her bias so blatantly clear that the 11th circuit can’t do anything but boot her off the case.
it’s not hush money. there’s literally nothing illegal about paying to kill a story. this case was about election interference, and the media’s inability to report that is such a key tell.
trump didn’t pay to hush people up, he paid so they wouldn’t wreck his campaign. that’s where the crimes come from. that and tax evasion.
Now, all that said: I spent nearly a decade in the army. The way he handled sensitive and secret info during his term, and then taking it home after - this shit cannot stand. How can we expect an 18 year old to take their responsibilities seriously while letting this shit slide?
it’s fucking bonkers. if anyone else tried this they’d be waiting for their trial in federal prison, they’d never see the light of day etc.
But but but Hillary’s email server!!! /s
right? it’s all so painfully stupid.
You have to try to commit treason.
It’s one of the few crimes explicitly defined in the Constitution.
Unfortunately, I doubt that we’ll ever see him charged.
I think calling for an overthrow of the government counts. But what do I know?
It doesn’t count. You need to wage war or aid/comfort the states enemies.
If they can prove he did something with the documents, eg sold Intel to Iran, for example, there’s likely a case. Saudi it gets complicated since the US doesn’t call them an enemy.
Either way, nothing in the case comes close to justifying a treason charge, though he clearly was acting against the best interests of the country.
Well, there’s the whole “comfort part” to the people who tried to do it. Its probably not enough, but he said that he loved them and has since called for the freeing of the “January 6th hostages”.
Anyway, as the other guy mentioned, Trump is on record of requesting a list of agents, a number of those people ending up dead, and this was around one of the times that Putin met with him. And remember, Trump had no response for the reporting that Putin had put out a bounty on US personnel abroad…
What about selling a list of undercover agents to Putin?
That one there is pretty much “on the nose”.
Of course, Trump intentionally didn’t let them record transcripts of his meetings, which is not suspicious at all.
Because it’s the one case that’s likely to happen before the election.
The hush money one is the first one to actually go to trial, so it’s mostly that. The documents case is basically suppressed until they can somehow get rid of this judge, and the other 2 cases are also being held up in places.
The hush money case isn’t likely to put him in prison though, I don’t think there’s any precedent of a politician going to prison for that. And of course there’s going to be appeals that can easily push it until past November.
And it is going to get overturned on appeal. It was an obvious political trial with a judge that donated to Biden, his daughter was bringing in millions because of the trial and the prosecutor ran for office pledging to take down Trump. That’s why Trumps bringing in record donations from small donors now.
What’s it like living in your world?
You Americans are fucking wild right now. I hope you have a civil war to sort this shit out proper, like you did with slavery.
Yeah, that won’t happen, they’ve got such a stranglehold on surveillance in this country, it would never get off the ground and things are just going to get worse. Most younger people and some older people to either keep their face buried into their phones on Facebook or Tiktok propaganda machines or they just buy into everything the MSM tells them so until we fix that stuff there’s really no hope of things getting better
You still never shared what website you get your information and news from.
A lot of places
Absolute dumbass commentary. The jury decided the case, not the judge. Trump literally had no defense to the allegations other than bald denials. The evidence that he did the crimes was written in paper and undeniable.
You’re just buying everything the MSM is selling, hook line & sinker. They wouldn’t let Trump have much of a defense. They wouldn’t even let an expert witness testify for the defense. And sure, the jury decides the case based on the instructions given by the judge and this is the only time a judge has ever given instructions like the ones in this case. You really don’t know much about the justice system if you believe that the judge in a case doesn’t play a major role in how a case is decided.
Where are you getting information from?
I read the instructions, so I guess the judge in this case
No, that’s not correct. You are receiving delusional propaganda about disallowing expert witnesses from somewhere. Where is that from?
Bradley Smith was definitely allowed to testify as an expert, but the defense declined to call him. Here, since you like pretending to have read things direct from the court. He was not allowed to show up and instruct the jury, which is the same as decided in the prior cited cases in NY and OH.
Where is your delusional propaganda from? The things you are claiming are lies that Donald has been tweeting. So perhaps your delusions are coming direct from the source: a lifelong con man and fraud who committed election interference in 2016.
Don’t a lot of people run for office on a platform of arresting and convicting people who commit crimes, though? Or am I missing something?
No, they run on stopping actual crime, not going after a particular person
You mean like the crime of selling classified documents for money?
Yeah, you mean the classified documents Biden took as a Senator and sold them to his book writer?
Is there literally only one picture of this dead inside person?
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Not sure where I saw it on youtube, but there was a video telling how to report federal judges for bias was posted. Within the last week or 2.
Edit: Here it is.
Do you have to be a Floridian to file a report?
Serious question, if judges show an absolute will to be biased and politically motivated like she does, how is she still in the position? Shouldn’t her higher-ups replace her with an impartial judge? And if that’s impossible, how is the US a country of law?
Congress would impeach her and the Senate would remove her. Therein lies the joke.
Hey, stupid is very hard to hide the higher up the foodchain
Those complaints filed since May 16 “appear to be part of an orchestrated campaign,” according to Pryor, whose appellate court reviews cases arising from federal district courts in Florida, Georgia and Alabama.
Well, yeah. Any kind of change requires a coordinated effort to get enough attention for something to happen.
True but if we switched sides here for a moment the left would be yelling foul play and I’m a Democrat. Just lots of visible hypocrisy
The other side already sends death threats and is calling for a war over a conviction against Trump by a jury of their peers. I dunno if I’d be that concerned about their take on hypocrisy.
When Republicans make a concerted effort , they call for violence against their opponents. When Democrats do it, they write strongly worded letters.
That’s not true at all.
Today it is.
And how is that?
