We’re watching US democracy dying right before our eyes.
If Biden and the Democrats had any mental coherency and a spine they’d be using this ruling to their advantage and fuck over conservatives before conservatives get into office to kill democracy and the opposition parties.
Great! Now jail and/or execute the 6 corrupt justices. The problem just solved itself.
Dark Brandon, come out to play…
I wish. I saw the debate. His people might do some shit on his behalf, but Joe’s mind has gone. I wouldn’t want him managing a Denny’s. I doubt he’s been calling the shots himself for months.
This will not happen. Democrats are fucking pussies and I keep voting for their pussy asses even though they don’t do anything.
Gotta elect that string of dictators disinclined from exercising their powers 🤷
Fuck this is so bad.
Bastille Day is next weekend. I think that’s enough time to order and assemble a guillotine. IKEA has those, right?
So, the United States is no longer a democracy. If a president wants to remain in power despite losing an election, they can, as long as they get the right people behind them, which is how every dictatorship works. What makes democracies different is that they have laws to stop that, and the supreme court just ruled those don’t apply to the president. There is no mechanism to stop them. You can say impeachment, but the results of an impeachment against the president are as much of a foregone conclusion as a North Korean election. The trappings of democracy does not unmake a dictatorship.
We’re no longer a democracy, and the only way we can ever return to being one is if we elect a string of dictators who feel disinclined to push their power as far as it can go. If we can do that long enough to get this decision overturned, we can have our democracy back.
You can’t impeach him when he officially drone strikes the vote.
The U.S. Constitution includes several provisions that limit the powers of the president and prevent the president from committing crimes without consequences:
Article I, Section 2 and Section 3: These sections provide the House of Representatives the power to impeach the president and the Senate the power to try and convict the president. Impeachment is a process by which the president can be removed from office for committing “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” Article II, Section 4: This section specifically states that the president, vice president, and all civil officers of the United States can be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 8: The president must take an oath of office to “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” This oath implies a legal and ethical obligation to adhere to the law and Constitution.
Checks and Balances: The Constitution establishes a system of checks and balances, whereby the legislative and judicial branches can limit the actions of the executive branch. Congress can pass laws, override presidential vetoes, and control the budget, while the judiciary can review the constitutionality of presidential actions through judicial review.
Together, these provisions and principles ensure that the president is subject to the rule of law and can be held accountable for criminal actions.
Just going to point out that the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to the constitution are all specificying that the citizenship are the final check to keep the government in balance.
Meh, not really. Control 51 seats in the Senate and a majority of the supreme Court and you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want to as president. We have not yet found the boundary where a president will be held accountable under those conditions.
The whole process could be foreshortened by rapidly shrinking the count of filled seats on SCOTUS. Make it dangerous to be a conservative on the bench and see how many fuckwits still decide it is a career move they see as valid.
Is it an official act to order drone strikes on over half of the supreme court? Nobody knows! Sounds like a case for the remaining justices to figure out.
When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right.
-Victor Hugo
The United States Supreme Court is corrupt and illegitimate.
How can Thomas say both anything a president says to the DOJ is an immune official act AND ALSO SAY that Jack Smith is not legitimate?
It seems Biden has carte Blanche to sic the FBI/CIA/DOJ/ST6 on Trump. His very life may depend on wielding this power. Thanks everyone.
Seems simple enough…
Biden’s actions on the Southern border are official acts, he has immunity.
Trump’s actions leading to 1/6 are not official acts, no immunity.
According to you, a person thinking logically and operating in good faith. All an authoritarian needs now is the judge, who can be appointed by the authoritarian themselveswith little oversight, to say whatever they want to do is an official act. We have an irrefutable king again in other words
Holy shit this isn’t right. Perfect for dictatorship.
I see this upcoming election will be the final one. Nice work.
Biden should dissolve the supreme court and re-appoint the 9 most activist judges possible.
They made this bed, make them sleep in it.
I hope you can appreciate that this would be the move of a tyrant. You don’t dissolve the cornerstone of law and order without actually destroying the foundation.
No matter how corrupt, this would be unconscionable.
Unconscionable, yes. Necessary, most likely. There are times when someone must wear the mantle of villain in order to be the hero who can actually do what is needed.
Also, the unconscionability of the act does squarely depend on one’s philosophical definition of “justice”. The conscionability of any decision is predicated on how one values the world around them. Personally, I lean towards a form of altruistic utilitarianism. As long as an act does not genuinely do harm, and it is for the benefit of the majority of people, it is good. If an act is harmful to some, but benefits the whole, it is justifiable. If an act harms many, but benefits few, it is unconscionable.
As for what OP said, I believe he mispoke or misunderstood the ramifications of the word “dissolve” in this context. What he described is not a dissolution of SCOTUS, but a forced full reset. Dissolution would be to eliminate it as one of the 3 federal houses of government, leaving only the Presidency and Congress to govern. Removing all members and pursuing filling the seats as the constitution dictates would not dissolve SCOTUS. It would be the same resultant event sequence if something happened and all of the justices died simultaneously. All sitting justicesl being replaced by the Democratic process of the country would be fine, and indeed, would be a good thing. As much as I love Sotomayor and Kagen, removing them would be necessary for it to not be a political action, but one which recognizes that the body is no longer able to do its sworn duty in its current state and it needs replaced.
Sounds like Richard Nixon would have had very little to worry about had this Court been around fifty years ago.
Which brings us to Trump…
Someone needs to do Project 2029 figuring out all the most effective ways to abuse all of this bullshit. We need to detail how to define fascists as enemies of the state under their own rules. Figure out how to use their rules to place the nuts of every landleech in a vice and spin the wheel like we are on the Price is Right. We need to put every religious tenent on the walls of every school, starting with the Satanic Temple. Just point for point find the abuses in their entire plan, then we all make sure to kick as many of them out of congress and state and local governments as possible and start going ham on flipping every abuse like we are Jesus chasing lenders from the temple.
Dude we need to get through this one first, there may not be a 2029 election
Yeah, but then we could have it copyrighted so if he does lose they can’t just change the me to 2029. Attack everything.
United States of America on July 1, 2024 ceased to be a democratic republic representative of its citizens.
FFS, Presidents have ALWAYS been shielded by official acts. The real issue here today is the 6 months of delay they handed to trump.
Biden needs to order the execution of Trump.
It will be the only way to make the MAGA people understand.
No, he would become a martyr which would only strengthen the resolve of the MAGA people
