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          That is the farthest thing from a hate symbol you could find.

          An upside down national flag is a sign of distress which means you care enough about your nation to consider the current moment as an aboration from the norm.

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            I don’t know if the stand up sign in front is a response, or they are meant to be shown jointly. But either way, you’re right. Have to care about a place to admit when it’s in distress, which we currently are.

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              It’s a work in progress.

              I added the Faux Nooz sign after someone tried to paint over the flag. I caught them mid-day painting over it with white paint. My short but heated conversation with them indicated they were watching WAY to much propaganda. I always escalate when confronted.

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          Could anyone explain the significance of the flipped ATV and mannequin legs sticking up in front of the flag? The message is lost on me.

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            The ATV was already there. I purchased it USED from the local Polaris dealer for about half price ($3,000). I make the mistake of buying it in the winter when I could not use it for what I bought it for. In the spring I discovered that it had no power to go over 10 mph. I went back to the dealer and he said “Your 3 month guarantee is up”. I then tried rebuilding the carb for this altitude, I rodded the muffler to make sure it was not restricted, I then did a compression test that showed me the piston and cylinder were shot. The Polaris dealer refused to refund my money so I put it in the front yard and turned it upside down. It looked a bit “dark” to me so I added some legs sticking out. The local police were friends with the Polaris dealer so the Chief of Police came to my house and told me I had to remove it. He said it was a “distraction” and he would blame ME if there was a car accident nearby. The next day I took an ad out in the local paper “ATV Art for sale by leading ATV artist. Police say “It has to go” so my loss is your gain. Price reduced from $54,000.00 down to $12,345.67.”

            A person in town offered to help me. He also had a run in with the police here. The deal was he would write a check to BUY the art BUT the “Art” had to stay there. My part was to not cash the check but to show the police that I did sell it but the condition of the sale is it cannot move. So the Police now get to decide if I am in business or not. So there it stays.

            The Faux Nooz sign I added after someone tried to paint over my flag IN BROAD DAYLIGH. The short conversation I had with them indicated they were getting way too much propaganda so it seems like a work in progress

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    For context that means a guy like this would now be allowed to serve. They check your tattoos when you come in so this doesn’t qualify as a hate symbol now.

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    It wasnt even 24 hours before the the colossal apopcalyptic blowback on this made them reverse their decision.

    Now we just have to wonder why they want to make hate symbols okay in the military… I’m sure its totally not anything to do with trying to build a white nationalist military that will gleefull obey illegal orders and slaughter the “other” in the streets at piggy boys command.

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    Please put an NSFW tag on that image, it can get you in trouble if you accidentally show it in public in many countries, for good reason.

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    I am all for reclaiming symbols stolen by fascists, but we all know this is absolutely not what they are getting to.

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      I once didn’t shave for weeks on a no-shave November. When I finally shaved I decided to see how I would look like with a toothbrush mustache… and I found that it suited me great! (At least I think it did) but I knew i couldn’t have it and I shaved it off.

      I wish we could DeNazify that mustache and make it the simple and sometimes whimsical mustache it was in the past.

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        It would be really great. I HATE shaving that part of my face. Doesn’t matter how well I prep or what razor I use. It always hurts. I don’t like having facial hair but just that would be tolerable.

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    Combine this policy with declaring anti-fascists as terrorists, and I think a pattern is emerging here.

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    THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES IS CALLING FOR LAWMAKERS TO BE EXECUTED FOR UPHOLDING THE LAW! WTF IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS SHIT?

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    Oh for a moment there I was beginning to doubt the direction of USA.
    Well I guess it’s still full steam ahead to dismantle democracy and introduce an authoritarian dictatorship.

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    Following the double negative rule: Anti Anti Fascists leaves you with

    Fascists

    The USA is dropping the mask for all the world to see.

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      AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL! AT THIS POINT I WANT TO SEE MASS PANIC SO I KNOW I’M NOT CRAZY! AND I’M IN CANADA, I WANT MASS PANIC IN CANADA! I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES AS IF EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

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        It would be nice if Canadians would also stop voting for politicians who lead Canada in the same direction as the USA. We need to turn left, not right.

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          When you you hit rock bottom at America’s level we’ll have an ice cold imported beer ready for you and you can pull up a chair with us around the destructive bonfire immolating western civilization. We’ve got hot dogs and everything. I know you dont love us right now but in a weird twist Americans are still big fans of Canada.

          I think I read that American approval of Canadians is 94% while simultaneously two thirds of Canadians not only dont trust the US but feel like they can never trust us again.

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          We can’t stop voting for conservatives to stop the Conservatives™ from getting power. We’re dumb as hell for that.

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        AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

        Nope, we’rs not. But I, like many people, am in a marginalized/bum-fuck town. So, my opinion doesn’t matter until the polls open. We voted against this evil, and we will again. But, our government wants to embrace the evil.

        We can see it wants to. We don’t want it to. But, most of us don’t matter to the government. We’re not big-dollar donors, so our politicians will ignore us. They’ve minimalized most people so all that we can do is vote against it.

        But, with where the Overton window is, we have one party running with regular evil while the other suggests a diet version of evil.

        I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES

        With how dried up tourism is, it would seem like they’re already doing it. Yet, the government is still going down this path. So, it’s not that big of an impact.

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          The reason I want Canadians to stop going to the states isn’t to help the states, it’s to protect Canadians. But I would also like to help the states if I knew how

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          You say that, but the US is full of people still just going about their business. The country is operating fairly normally, all things considered, and the best you’ve got are sanctioned protests that are great for showing that people don’t love the situation but aren’t actually doing anything that couldn’t be responded to with an AI video of king Trump shit bombing everyone. Oh, and a Californian conservative who makes memes mocking Trump but is himself pretty shit.

          Maybe for a nation of cowards this is action, but really it’s just sad. You’re taking it lying down, and half of you are even fighting to make sure that ya’ll get completely fucked.

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            personally, I’m trans and I’m just trying to survive while I build an exit plan. damn right I’m laying down - I’m laying low.

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              Right?

              Like, the best thing a member of a loathed and marginalized community can do is to have an escape plan. They’re foaming at the mouth with rage and drooling at the opportunity for a hated group to put up an ounce of resistance so they can round them up for the camps. What kind of opposition can one transgender person in a one bedroom at night put up against an armed SWAT team?

              It’ll be someone else’s job to resist with an organized force. The trick isn’t surviving long enough to be rescued from Auschwitz. The trick is knowing when and how to get away before Auschwitz becomes a thing.

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            I want America to revolt too, at the same time it’s a bit much to ask considering people will die if it happens. Really, my anger and frustration is more directed at congress and the Supreme Court, the people who are supposed to be responsible for protecting America from this sort of thing.

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              They don’t need to start shooting, but they do need to take it seriously. For fuck’s sake not every problem needs to be solved by violence but every problem does need to be solved by people giving a shit at least. Meanwhile there are still hordes of people in the US just pretending like nothing is all that wrong.

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                Agreed but I’m not sure what normal citizens can do. They can vote in the midterms but I fear Trump will rig that. Short of violence, I guess a general strike is the best option.

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                  At this point I’d literally take just seeing more people actually caring and fewer people “not being political”. Caring about politics is not a niche interest. You don’t have to be an expert but the lack of comprehension around the subject all over the world, especially in places like the US and Canada where information is so easy to find, is fucking insane to me.

                  It would be sick if we could throw out the idea that this isn’t fucking Star Wars and we don’t need to take Conservatives seriously as the only other option outside of the centrists to get some kind of light-side/dark-side balance.

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            but the US is full of people still just going about their business.

            Because we aren’t important enough for politicians to pay attention to. Our calls just go straight into an answering machine that gets ignored because we’re not big-dollar donors like Musk. Musk probably has a direct line.

            the best you’ve got are sanctioned protests that are great for showing that people don’t love the situation but aren’t actually doing anything that couldn’t be responded to with an AI video of king Trump shit bombing everyone.

            Yeah. We are in poverty. We have had stagnant wages for like 40 years, but rampent inflation. This is the second gilded age like it was in the 20s and earlier. The rich have everything and direct lines to politicians, and the poor need 3 gig jobs and a regular job just to afford rent and food. In a work heap like this, we need foreknowledge to schedule our protests around. We can’t afford the privilege of just taking off and protesting.

            Maybe for a nation of cowards this is action, but really it’s just sad. You’re taking it lying down, and half of you are even fighting to make sure that ya’ll get completely fucked.

            Again, you’re conflating poverty and desperation in a backdrop of political corruption as aquiesence.

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              Sure, but why do so many people in the US jot even seem to be aware of what’s happening? Why are things still happening like this is just a rainy day and not a biblical flood?

              I’m not going to ask for violence specifically but from the outside looking in it’s like most of the country doesn’t even know that anything particularly bad is happening.

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        Any Canadian (or other nationality) still going to the Fourth Reich voluntarily is admitting that they support fascism.

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        Honestly, I understand why my parents aren’t even panicking, the country we lived in before coming to the US, also had random arbitary policy changes, so… this just feels normal to them, authoritarianism is normal to them.

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      The mask had been poorly held up for ages, people just chose to believe them 'cos Russia bad.

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      Military service will reportedly no longer classify ‘divisive’ swastika as ‘hate’ symbol

      David McAfee

      November 20, 2025 2:49PM ET

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      Trump administration insiders are furious over reporting that the U.S. Coast Guard, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, will no longer classify the swastika as a symbol of “hate.”

      According to the Washington Post, the branch of military service has decided that swastikas and nooses are considered “potentially divisive” but not hateful.

      As the news outlet reports, “The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify the swastika, an emblem of fascism and white supremacy inextricably linked to the murder of millions of Jews and that more than 400,000 U.S. troops who died fighting against in World War II, as a hate symbol, according to a new policy that takes effect next month.”

      ALSO READ: This dark addiction has taken over — and threatens to end our republic

      The report continues:

      “Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as ‘potentially divisive’ under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag, though display of the latter remains banned, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post.”

      The Post also reports, “Certain historic displays or artwork where the Confederate flag is a minor element are still permissible, according to the policy.”

      “Though the Coast Guard is not part of the Defense Department, the service has been reworking its policies to align with the Trump administration’s changing tolerances for hazing and harassment within the U.S. military,” the report states. “In September Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth directed a review and overhaul of those policies, calling the military’s existing standards ‘overly broad’ and saying they jeopardize U.S. troops’ combat readiness.”

      Trump Homeland Security official Tricia McLaughlin rejected the claims made without being specific.

      “This is an absolute ludicrous lie and unequivocally false. The @washingtonpost should be embarrassed it published this fake crap,” she wrote. Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., shared her post.

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    They have declared that nooses and swatzikas are not hate symbols, time to test that by drawing a picture of a Nazi being hanged I guess

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    Brief anecdote. In school, we used to draw swastikas on everything in order to get others in trouble or to make ourselves seem like assholes. At no point did we consider what we were doing ok, it was just kids riding the edge of something they couldn’t understand for the sake of ignominy. Even we, as ignorant as we were, recognized that the swastika was a hate symbol and thoroughly unacceptable, we were, again, just assholes.

    I’ve been saying this quite a lot but this culture war bodes poorly.

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      On a similar tangent, I find hilarity in poorly drawn swastikas - or to use an entertaining but horrendously ablest term, a spastika.

      I make no apology for equating the sort of dickhead that scrawls this shit everywhere in adult life with the sort of clueless fuckwit that tests sockets with a fork, and couldn’t pour water out of a boot even if the instructions were on the soles.

      I don’t often like punching down on the lesser-intellectual folk (mainly because I’m dumb as rocks for 23 hours of the day myself) but this is one of the few times I enjoy the opportunity.

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        Damn been awhile since I’ve thought about a good old Hale Hortler. Thanks for reminding me that while I might be stupid I at least am better than these fuckwits.