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So now DOGE has removed all these costs, will Americans not have to pay any taxes anymore? That’s the conservative claim right? That taxes paid for all this stuff and Liberals were taxing everyone super high for it…
…so now taxes drop to zero for EVERYONE? Right?
Best I can do is drop the taxes on the rich. 👉👈🥺
oh, they’ll still have to raise taxes on the lower half of earners, strip essential services bare–if they continue to exist at all, and pile on trillions to the national debt for that.
adding debt is ‘free money’ to them. not like they gotta pay it back…
I enjoyed the “we gotta lower the national debt for our kids” which quickly converted into “we gotta raise the national debt and we’re going to go into more debt” all in the same month.
They are planning on replacing income tax with a sales tax via tariffs. I wish I were kidding.
“They” are also pushing for a cashless society. Having an RFID chip in your hand will get you all your necessities and non participation won’t. Mark my words. If someone told me this a few years ago I would have laughed.
Literal revelations. I did not have that on my bingo card
That’s what happens when you have a suicidal death cult trying their damnedest to bring about their version of the end of the world.
Seriously where are all the conservative Christians that were so afraid of barcodes. These guys have turned revelations into a check list, but it’s okay because he’s “your” guy?
The conservative Christians I still talk to (that number is getting lower and lower each year) believe Trump is the third coming of Christ and that he cannot do any wrong.
These people are smart in many other ways except in this area.
They believe it’s an over reaction. That it’s overblown. It’s fake news.
Wait, did I miss the second coming of Christ?
That’s kind of how the antichrist works. He fools most people into believing he’s a good guy
Makes sense why Musk wanted X to become the “everything” app, including for mobile payments.
For your birthday, I’ll get you a very special gift: an egg.
Yeah seriously what the fuck am I paying taxes for if there’s no government anymore?
don’t
I like taxes like I like my Costco membership. I get a better deal if I go in with others and buy in bulk. Even if I don’t use all the same goods and services as others.
Getting rid of corruption and grifters siphoning value out of a system is a much better goal than “saving money”
This is half a trillion less extracted from the public
Only for those willing to risk violating tax law, and by extension mostly people who feel like they can afford enough accountant and lawyer time to evade consequences if they come.
IRS also publicly said they would only be doing easy enforcement, i.e. only doing audits on lower income people who can’t drag it out and make it expensive.
So basically giving a green light for the rich and only the rich to keep the money they owe…
OK big brain, how do we pay for the government then?
Why would you say “half” when you could say “500”?
500 Billion Dollars.
Doesn’t half a trillion sound like more than 500 billion? Even though 500 billion is already a lot?
No, “half” sounds like half. 500 of something sounds like more than half of something. (Yes, trillion > billion, we’re not debating the actual facts - which are the same either way - just the way it’s perceived in a headline)
Half of dinners. 500 meals. Half a car. 500 auto parts. Half of all dealerships. 500 independent dealers. etc.
The old quarter pounder Burger is bigger than a 1/3rd lbs because 4 is bigger than 3! Lol never change America.
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none of your examples make sense. “trillion” has more gravity than “billion” in headlines. simple as that.
Most people have a hard time envisioning large numbers so half a larger number has more gravity than x of a smaller number.
Well the former is the reason “half” doesn’t work as well. Trillion, Quintillion, Zillion, it has less impact.
Wrong.
Ok
A trillion is larger than a billion, so half a trillion is a more rage bait headline.
Humans can’t fathom the vast distances of space. How are we going to fathom a trillion dollars?
at least, in part.
truly disgusting. I saw an article that fElon and Drumpf are taking away payments that orphans get because they have no parents. Meanwhile, half a trillion is probably being redistributed to fElon and drumpf.
You didn’t see an article, you saw a screenshot of a tweet. As far as I can tell that was a lie. We should not be spreading lies when there are enough true horrible things they have done we could be talking about.
Unless I’m wrong and you’re the one person on Lemmy that actually saw an article supporting that claim. I’d like to be wrong, if I am could you please link the article?
I think you’re right. Maybe it was a screenshot. I can’t remember.
500,000 millions
Pretty sure one trillion is a million millions.
Correct. I’m referring to the posts half a trillion.
Be that as it may, it’s a significant amount of money that will not be collected but will now trickle down… excuse me, I have a very hard time keeping a straight face hahaha
Rage is the only reasonable response.
I think it’s the opposite. We’re all used to “a billion” now, even thought we can’t really concieve of it the way we can, say $100. But a trillion is just space money. Just make it a gazillion.
500 Billion has real competitive traction - people are billionaires, this is more than them, etc. A trillion is something you have nanoparticles of, something very small.
“Billion”, sadly, is a term that nowadays conjures an individual human or corporate level figure.
“Trillion” is an economy level figure and suitably conjures an idea of how fucked up you all are.
IMHO.
yup. especially we like our ancestors for quite some time back have only dealt in thousands back when the richest dealt in millions.
it’s the direction the figure is no-doubt going. in six weeks, that estimate will be a lot higher.
‘half a trillion’ now is a very fair choice of wording.
Ok, fine, libertarians, you won. I don’t have to pay my taxes now, right?
Thats the fun thing with fascist governments, before you’d get a fine and asked to pay back on a payment plan, and maaaybe get jail time if you reaally went out of your way to not pay your taxes year after year.
Now they can just come get ya in the middle of the night and throw you in jail for any number of reasons, not paying your taxes, being one of them. Oh and then maybe get deported because they took your ID’s and passport and when your family members throw a stink and demand you released because you’re a born and raised US citizen, oops, they can’t find you in the system.
Libertarians will deny Trump is one of them, but Trump/DOGE isthe most relevant they have ever been
Tomorrow: IRS has been fired.
No because IRS is helping capture immigrants
Fired? Sued for hurting Musky feelings.
IN A MONTH.
4 years of months left to go.
Maybe next time people can get off their fat fucking asses and vote. Or, if you did vote, maybe vote more intelligently next go around.
If we’re even allowed to vote ever again.
Are we winning yet? Are we great?
Eggs now cost 4 cents per dozen
They’re very efficient at destroying the country.
He also lost nearly a trillion dollars for Tesla. Tells the Tesla employees to keep their stock, hinting at how great things are and how much better they will be soon, and then the entire c-suite sells off around a hundred million in stock…
Elmo really is the best of all humans… At evaporating the wealth of others
I’ve said this for nearly s decade now, Elmo is a lyoni scammer who got lucky, that is all
“He got lucky” is another way to also say that, as terrible as he is at everything he does, including hiding it, the people who give him literally anything are always clamouring to prove just how stupid they can be by simping for him at every turn.
This was always the plan.
They all need to be jailed.
i don’t see any point to keeping these people alive.
At least with musk himself it would be grand to see him spend his life in a padded cell with nothing to do and bland food.
i’m not interested in punishment. only solutions.
I’m for both to be honest.
Hanged by their bootstraps
Hmm, I wonder where it went /s
Correction - they efficiently lost half a trillion dollars for the USA
This needs to be bigger news on the mainstream channels, but you know it wont be.
I’m so tired of this shit.
It ain’t fucking lost, it’s being re-distributed.
