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    Kinda like art is inherently a form of speech amd one that incites emotion, thought, and often rebellion. Any real artist knows where they stand. Sheeran sells a product. The others create music.

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    Ed Sheeran is weak, but Robert Kraft is the evil psychopathic billionaire who started all this.

    A profound fuck to Robert Kraft in particular.

    At least Sheeran isn’t in the Epstein Files.

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      Ed has more power than the venues and promoters. He isnt getting blacklisted from anywhere when he makes them as much money as he does. He doesnt even need balls to stand up to them. They need him.

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      Interesting how Ed Sheeran is the one getting dragged in the media and all over Lemmy while the literal billionaire who started this shit is probably getting rub and tugged in Florida right now.

      As if I needed another reason to hate the Patriots.

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        If it was a clear and cut case of contract breach for the tour, that would be one thing. But it doesn’t sound like that’s what it was about. So Ed is getting dragged for not standing up for his fellow artist.

        From what I’ve gathered, Ed pretty much just threw his hands up and said, “I don’t want to get involved, you guys figure it out.” Fair enough if that’s the case. That’s his choice. But we see the result of what people think about those who take the cowards way out.

        He doesn’t want to deal with politics. He just wants to perform. And I get that. But it’s still cowardly to not stand up for your fellow artist. And that’s why everyone else is dropping out.

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          When you’re the leading the artist of a tour there’s a whole bunch of complicated shit. You might be fronting some out of pocket, the promoters become your business partners, and there are a lot of mouths to feed, etc

          You could just appease Kraft and find a different opener for the shows at Gillette Stadium but instead they cancelled Mack for the entirety of the North American tour. Why?

          Kraft won’t admit it but it sure does seem like he called in favors to all the other owners of venues (almost all NFL stadiums) to cancel him out. I think that kind of collusion is a much bigger story.

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      He’s not taking a “both sides are bad” take. He’s taking a “I don’t want to deal with politics, I just want to perform”.

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    Ed is such a bitch.

    What is the point of fuck you money if you’re always going to lick the boots of the Epstein class?

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      It’s not just Ed, There are so many other people tied to the tour and they need money. Sound guys, lights, security, electricity, networks/communications, scene builders, fixtures, etc. Probably far more than most of us realise.

      If Ed decides to cancel the entire tour over it. I’m sure he would be fine. But maybe not everyone else. I still think it’s cowardly to not even try to stand up for your fellow artist. But I can understand if he feels responsible for everyone that relies on the tour to bring home money to their families.

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    Well, Ed started as a busker, alone with his guitar. Looks like he might end as one, just on a large stage in a stadium.

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    The other Sheeran-level star signers are pretty quiet these days. Ed is taking a hit for them.

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    Another racist, degenerate, billionaire backfire. Palestine is being talked about everywhere, big time! Thanks Mister Kraft! Sorry Ed, your career is dead. The New England Pedophiles indeed!

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    The signs promoting a chance to win to open for Ed Sheeran in Mexico City are too funny. He really stepped into it

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    Breaking News: Ed Sheeran’s own family, two fingers and all four toes on his left foot pull out of US tour

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    Stupid of Sheeran and his team to assume that the IRISH backing band wouldn’t care.

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      He really should have. Imagine how embarrassing it would be for the stadiums. I bet some of them would have changed their mind.

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    Does that mean I can do backing? If So, I’ll wear my “fuck the trumps” shirt

    I only know how to play clarinet (and marginally), but it’s probably no worse than Ed’s shitty music anyway

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      Ed is the one who spent tens of millions pre-paying semi trucks, Staff, Equipment, consultants on stage design, Travel and lodging and logistics. He apparently fronts the money for his own tours. People are hired, contracts are signed, things are scheduled and paid for. I don’t envy Ed. He’s not in the financial or legal position to simply cancel like the others are.

      Robert Kraft is the bad guy here. Changing the rules on what musicians can play and can’t play. Art versus censorship is a tale as old as time. The industry needs to fight back, the fans need to stand up, but I don’t think we should take it all out on Ed here. I got the vibe he wants to be on the right side, but he’s too deep right now and counting on the tour dates to cover his expenses.

      Where he messed up big-time was not hiring a crisis manager before he put out that defensive statement. He said some good things, but in the wrong tone, and I think people are reacting to the tone more than anything else.

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      Ed Sheeran is worth $400 million and is one of the top 3 touring musicians bar none. He had every piece of power to say “fuck you” to Robert Kraft and in the moment where it mattered he was spineless.

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          The people caping for Sheeran are hilarious. Do you truly not see why people are mad at him? That fence post up your ass must be impacting your critical thinking buddy.

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          Kraft is a Zionist child molester with his own intelligence agency. People shouldn’t need to be reminded that he is bad, but now we know Ed is bad too. That’s the news

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      Ed Sheeran has too much power and wealth to be gentle with. He’s chosen the Zionist side even when his livelihood wouldn’t be in jeopardy.

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      By boycotting the concerts at their venues, you are directing anger at them, and hurting them financially.

      His backing band and all opening acts pulling out means the tour should be cancelled, and that’s hitting Kraft and other venue owners right where it hurts.

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          No, not one off events. Sustained boycott is the only way, I don’t give a single penny to any of these assholes, and I know other artists will play the venues and lots of people who were outraged about this will attend at those same venues. I don’t count on them anyway, they will continue to live life like their actions have no consequence, and pointing out that Kraft and other billionaires are bad won’t change that.

          It’s not like we need more people to know what billionaires are bad, only the braindead don’t realize that. We’ve reached peak awareness, everyone knows what’s going on.

          That’s why I believe it’s more effective to point your fingers at the person willingly taking the fall for money. The pressure on Sheeran and the fallout will hopefully translate to other celebrities realizing that cowardice is not an acceptable option for them. That can translate to artists boycotting the venues (even out of self preservation).

          Of course it doesn’t change who they are, but it can effect their ability to suppress the truth.

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      Ed showed us all that he considers himself more in line with those stadium owners then the rest of us though, so fuck him

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          We’re already mad at Kraft. We’re mad at the billionaire class in general. Kraft’s behavior is not novel. Ed’s is. That’s why his actions are getting more attention. We didn’t know Ed would side with the enemy till now.

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        Or possibly he’s on the side of people who spent a lot of money to see him in concert

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          Ed is the one who spent tens of millions pre-paying semi trucks, Staff, Equipment, consultants on stage design, Travel and lodging and logistics. He apparently fronts the money for his own tours. People are hired, contracts are signed, things are scheduled and paid for. I don’t envy Ed. He’s not in the financial or legal position to simply cancel like the others are.

          Robert Kraft is the bad guy here. Changing the rules on what musicians can play and can’t play. Art versus censorship is a tale as old as time. The industry needs to fight back, the fans need to stand up, but I don’t think we should take it all out on Ed here. I got the vibe he wants to be on the right side, but he’s too deep right now and counting on the tour dates to cover his expenses.

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          Cancel and refund the tickets, can you imagine the media coverage he’d be getting instead if he had just done that to the affected shows, and then found smaller venues that welcome them?

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            Look, I’m all for being on the right side, but Ed is the one who spent tens of millions on prepaid semi trucks, stage gear, countless personnel to move and run a huge production to every venue on the tour, experts to design the show. He can’t just “cancel” those things. Money is spent. People are hired. Contracts were signed.

            Robert Kraft is a bad guy here; cut Ed a LITTLE slack for not being in a legal/financial position to cancel like the others are.

            When venues start controlling what artists can perform, the industry is fucked. It’s like demonetizing “controversial” YouTube videos, but IRL in a music venue.

            If I was on my tour and this happened, I wouldn’t know what the hell to do. What he needs to do is hire a crisis manager.

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            Oh no it took the small venue two nights per night to get all the original ticket sales in I bet the artist is heartbroken.

            Said no one, ever