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      Okay, slow your roll there. Protecting pedophiles is not nearly in the same category as directly facilitating pedophilia and engaging in human trafficking.

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    If you dont impeach the source of the rot, you’re just changing the face to another unqualified crony eg Cannon 💀

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    Remember when Obama decided that “moving on” was more important than prosecuting the Bush admin for war crimes? There won’t ever be any consequences for these people unless we find a way to distribute them ourselves.

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      The corruption, incompetence, and negligence of the Bush administration led to the avoidable deaths of over 10,000 American citizens, countless foreign nationals, the rise of organized Muslim military extremism, AND the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

      When Obama took over, I never bought into his Hope & Change bullshit, he looked like just another neolib placeholder President, meant to fill in between destructive Republicans presidencies. That was the role of EVERY Democratic president since LBJ, the last warrior Democrat, and that’s the role that Obama filled.

      I said at the time, that if Obama didn’t aggressively punish the crimes of the Bush administration, the Republicans would view it as extreme weakness, and pounce. Republicans are feral, and they operate like wild animals. If their natural tendency for chaos isn’t controlled, the next Republican administration would be even worse.

      Despite that, even I was surprised at how bad MAGA became.

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      Remember when Obama continued committing war crimes like he was the 3rd and 4th terms of the bush administration? It was in his best interest not to prosecute, the precedence would have been inconvenient for him.

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    Some of us pretended to to wrap presents for the kids. Others erased evidence that could help put a pedophile in jail.

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      I’d rather see her be subject to the rule of law, or even vigilanteism, before I wanted to see the government doing still more blatantly illegal shit.

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    I hope that if I’m ever in the papers for abandoning my morals, my oaths, and all dignity in egregiously stupid ways, that my wonton and clear law-breaking is characterized as defiance.

    “Oh, no, your honor, I wasn’t breaking all those laws! I was defying them!”

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      I hope if I’m ever in the papers for defying the law, abandoning my morals and doing some that will be remembered with scorn through all of history, it will be for something like assassinating someone I learn from a time traveler will become the next genocidal scourge to humanity.

      Not, you know… helping a kid rapist get away with raping kids.

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    Then what will be the consequences? I don’t give a fuck that these people are breaking the law if nothing is going to be DONE about it. I want a headline that says Trump and his cronies are to be prosecuted. Not might be! ARE! and I want the trial to happen quickly, not be dragged out for four years, by which time America has irreversibly descendended into fascism!

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      Trump and his cronies need to be removed from the office, not prosecuted. Not because a part of the population strongly disagrees with his policies, but simply because he has been blatantly disregarding the constitution. And if you think “only the supreme court can decide if that’s true” I’m sorry but you’re wrong, you only need a brain. You don’t need a conviction to know that he is a paedophile and has something weird going on with Putin, you just need your eyes and ears. The epstein files have now been released, clearly implicating him, yet people still seem to be waiting for “the official thing” and crying about the redactions. I understand that he “allegedly” is an Epstein associate until he’s convicted, but dear Americans please remember that being found guilty of something is not the same as being guilty of something. You can be one without the other. You can be reasonably certain someone did something based on the evidence you’ve seen. Judges are not superhuman, and especially if they’re complicit, how can you rely on them to stop the injustice?

      This really is not a call for violence. I do not care how you stop Trump from hurting the USA and the rest of the world, but it does need to happen, and You The People are the only ones who can make it happen. It is your duty and your right to resist tyranny, isn’t it? I hope new “political” figures can rise soon and accomplish that with nothing but charisma and a spine, but at the very least, please stop being so defeatist towards the lack of consequences.

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        I’m not sure if this is directed at me specifically or the American people but 1) I’m not American and 2) I’m not being defeatist, I’m demanding something be done to change things just like you are. Before the people can do something, they need to recognize that the government isn’t going to do anything to stop this

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          No this is not directed to you at all, just seemed like a good space to vent :)

          I just hope Americans can find hope and love for each other again, and really be the “beacon of liberty” they purport to be.

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      Get involved in your community. Learn who runs your town, your county, your school district, your state.

      Find out who represents what, spend a few hours a week reading and sharing info on local/neighborhood social media, volunteer if you really have the time and drive to make changes. Even just hold a yard sale and get to know your neighbors if you live in that kind of environment.

      The reason nobody is paying attention to the law is we stopped paying attention to the people who are supposed to uphold it. We only tune in every 4 years when the circus comes to town, meanwhile the entire fetid clownshow is propped up on a foundation of local representatives and judges and boards of people who largely run uncontested or are installed by companies, not groups of people.

      They are leveraging our short attention spans to vote in people who will favor corporate interests over law, and those corporations? they will work harder to erode our attention even further. We can fix this, but it has to start at home.

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      Prosecuted by who? Themselves? We’re in a fascist state lol, anyone who thinks anyone is going to be legitimately prosecuted is living in a fantasy world.

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      Disbarred and indicted is a very real possibility for a Trump associated lawyer. I lost count how many times that happened

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    There have been dozens, if not more, of impeachable offenses Trump has committed and they don’t care. Why would they care about this, which helps their dear leader?

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      Because no one cares about Pam Bondi, but the American people care about the Epstein files

      Who’s going to defend her? She made the administration look bad while also pissing off the public

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        In n particular, MAGA care about the Epstein files. This is a major crack in their coalition. They spent years throwing around conspiracy theories about pedophile cults secretly running the world. They are obsessed with the Epstein files, and the more Trump tries to obfuscate their contents, the more they have to start wondering what his skin in the game is. We’re already seeing it happen with people like MTG publicly turning on him.

        It’s still a cult. They don’t want to suspect dear leader of anything. But the more he works to conceal stuff, the more they’re trapped between two things they hold at absolute truths. One of them has to give eventually.

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          I’d dearly love to believe you but if any group of people are champions of managing cognitive dissonance without addressing it, it’s the MAGA crowd.

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                See, the thing is, I’m not talking about their stupidity.

                That’s why the Epstein stuff is sticking in a way nothing else is; because it doesn’t ask them to be smart. In fact, it plays right into their stupidity. That’s the difference.

                Everything else has bounced off them because it was easier to excuse it. Excusing the tariffs is easier than learning how trade really works. Excusing tax cuts is easier than understanding how the economy really works. Excusing his foreign policy blunders is easier than trying to understand the value of soft power. Ignorance is simpler. Ignorance is easier.

                But the Epstein stuff? That sticks because they don’t have the ability to be ignorant about it. This is something they know. Secret cabals of pedophile elites kidnapping children to sexually abuse them on a private island? My brother in Christ, they write fanfiction about that shit. They are the self proclaimed experts on that stuff. With everything else they can just say “Well I don’t understand this, but I’m 100% confident that Trump does, because obviously the billionaire is a genius.” But then they watch as Democrats are out there screaming for the release of the Epstein files while Republicans are dragging their heels and it does a number on them. Because they know how this is supposed to work; Democrats are all evil child rapists and Trump is the saviour sent to stop them. So why is Trump running cover for the pedophile cabal?

                In short, I’m not claiming that MAGA are suddenly getting smart. I’m claiming that the Epstein cover up is exactly the right kind of stupid.

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                  I really hope you are right, I’m not up to date with MAGA I don’t run in any of their circles, but I know Meagan whatever her name is already tried downplay pedophile like if they are 15 it’s not as bad.

                  I’m just afraid they are so stupid it’s easy to explain stuff away with bullshit like that

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        Who’s going to defend her?

        More pressing, who is going to prosecute her? To date, I’ve seen zero impulse under any prior administration to prosecute the wrongdoing of outgoing officials.

        The closest case has been the half assed effort to get Leticia James on… misreporting a mortgage statement?

        Nobody at the highest levels of government and business actually want to fuck with one another. It is always and forever punching down on the plebs.

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          Congress. They can just impeach her

          I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she’d be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis

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            I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she’d be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis.

            Now Trump definitely won’t fire her. He loves criminals who do crimes for him.

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              No, Trump loves Trump. Everyone else is useful until they’re not, at which point they get thrown under the bus or conveniently commit suicide.

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              No he doesn’t… He doesn’t give a shit about them. He’s abandoned so many loyalists it’s crazy

              He talks shit about them even. He relishes when they get punished in his name

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              Yes, but really no.

              They impeached him, which is the name of the procedure to remove an official from office, but then they didn’t have the Senate votes to remove him from office

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                  Us, right now?

                  This isn’t a unicorn. Literally the entire Senate voted to release the Epstein files, that unanimously passed law in the Senate was not followed

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      The only thing the military should be doing is locking up the administration for crimes against humanity